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0 pointsjimktrains25y ago0 comments

Species is a much more fluid term than I think you realize.

Also, we don't know that most people are more or less unaffected by covid-19. We're only beginning to understand long term affects of even mild cases. Please don't spread misinformation.

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Teever5y ago

Ring species[1] are a particularly fascinating example of the fluidity of the concept of species.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species

chmod7755y ago

> Species is a much more fluid term than I think you realize.

I am aware it sometimes tells you nothing at all.

> We're only beginning to understand long term affects of even mild cases. Please don't spread misinformation.

Asymptomatic cases are not the same as mild cases.

Besides, always assuming the worst-case scenario, especially when all previous experience tells us to be optimistic, is not a workable strategy.

jimktrains2OP5y ago

My point wasn't to assume the worst, but to point out that we don't know what the long term affects of even mild cases are, and there is a non-trivial amount of mild-and-worse cases.

holoduke5y ago

Covid is comparable to flu with a higher mortality rate. Don't make it bigger than it is. 99.95% of the people are doing perfectly fine. Genetics are thus pretty effective

raducu5y ago

Please, please, please stop saying that it is comparable to the flu in any way!

I got a mild case of COVID-19, even the doctors in the hospital agreed on that; I was able to help other patients do stuff they couldn't, I could easily climb 2 floor worth of stair while 90% of the patients had to make frequent resting stops.

37 days after first symptoms, I'm still not back to my previous energy levels, I still cough, I got tinnitus in my right ear and pain when ejaculating.

None of this has ever happened with any flu or cold that I ever got.

inglor_cz5y ago

"I got tinnitus in my right ear and pain when ejaculating."

Uh, thanks for warning, I guess? (nervously adjusting my FFP2 mask)

dragonwriter5y ago

> Covid is comparable to flu with a higher mortality rate.

So, like 1918 pandemic flu?

virmundi5y ago

There is also evidence that the Spanish Flu was made worse by a magic new drug of the time: aspirin. Sadly we dosed people far beyond safe. We made them internally bleed to death. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091002132346.h...

By the way, here's evidence that the Spanish Flu had a 20% death rate: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ten-myths-about-1918-...

autokad5y ago

the 1918 spanish flu death rate was around 20%. It was only in March 2020 after covid19 was mainstream news it got edited in Wikipedia to show 2% (not sure if that's changed by now), you can check the edit history. But in short, in 1918, there were coffin shortages, compared to the toilet paper shortages with covid19.

covid19 and the Spanish flu are not even in the same weight class, not even a little bit, whereas yes, like it or not, covid19 is most likely in the same weight class as the flu depending on your thresholds with the flu at .1% and CV19 around .5 to 1% (likely closer to .5%).

yes, there are some people with long term effects of cv19. that's also true of the flu. Many scientists think age related dementia is caused by repeated exposures to the flu/cold. flu/cold have also caused heart and organ damage to many, it just doesn't get reported on. 'oh, this person died of organ failure, wonder why'. It's already a proven fact that the flu has caused the onset of type 1 diabetes for example. There are also many reported cases of heart disease caused by the flu. the flu sucks.

people loose their sh*t when you talk about this. it doesn't minimize the effect of covid19, it just highlights the flu is something serious. for some reason, people are too immature to handle that. or maybe it goes against their worldview we should burn the world to the ground in order to stop covid19.

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