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0 points_qulr5y ago0 comments

> How about examining some of the technical issues instead of ideological rhetoric?

Way ahead of you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25076588

> I have to assume you neither own nor lease any Apple devices.

This was a ludicrously bad assumption.

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zepto5y ago

It was also a tongue in cheek assumption.

However the question I have is given your views, why?

_qulrOP5y ago

> However the question I have is given your views, why?

I came to the Mac almost 20 years ago. It was very different back then. The first decade of Mac OS X was brilliant. I felt it was the best consumer OS ever made. It was also a fairly "open" system: Mac UI on top, UNIX underneath.

The second decade of Mac OS X (now macOS), has been a disaster IMO. It just keeps getting worse and worse. All of the restrictions we see now were added in the past 8 years or so.

In short, I was already fully committed to the Mac before it started to get locked down, but I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable with it as time goes on. There's not a great alternative, however.

tonyedgecombe5y ago

It was only like that in the first ten years because it wasn't common enough to become a malware target.

zepto5y ago

There's not a great alternative, however.

I don’t think waging ideological war on Apple is doing anything to help us get one, especially not if you dismiss the real security benefits of their approach as part of some conspiracy to undermine the concept of ownership.

What would help is some analysis of how technically to achieve both security and openness. Nobody has achieved this yet.

Apple’s security strategy does place them as a trusted party in the system. I don’t see them changing this any time soon, since it’s an unsolved research problem, and they need to keep shipping.

I am curious what a system with no centrally trusted authority would actually look like.

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zepto5y ago

It was also a tongue in cheek assumption.

However the question I have is given your views, why?

_qulrOP5y ago

> However the question I have is given your views, why?

The second decade of Mac OS X (now macOS), has been a disaster IMO. It just keeps getting worse and worse. All of the restrictions we see now were added in the past 8 years or so.

In short, I was already fully committed to the Mac before it started to get locked down, but I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable with it as time goes on. There's not a great alternative, however.

tonyedgecombe5y ago

It was only like that in the first ten years because it wasn't common enough to become a malware target.

zepto5y ago

There's not a great alternative, however.

What would help is some analysis of how technically to achieve both security and openness. Nobody has achieved this yet.

I am curious what a system with no centrally trusted authority would actually look like.

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