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0 pointssroussey5y ago0 comments

Core and cache organization gets more difficult, yes.

So do thermals and layout, which is not where Apple has experience (they don’t make any custom chip that requires a fan that I know of).

That said, they have had a looong time to think out this, so I have confidence they will make it work over the next two years.

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acdha5y ago

Re: thermals, they’ve been pushing those limits since the PowerPC era and that includes high-TDP systems like the XServe and Mac Pro packed with CPUs, GPUs, and custom accelerator chips. The big problem was that Johnny Ives kept wanting to make ultra-thin showpieces - if they’ve learned from that debacle they’ll produce something 30% bigger with a robust safety margin.

Rapzid5y ago

The M1 mac mini is air cooled and I believe that's the setup most are benchmarking against? The proc pulls just over 20W max load IIRC(best on estimates because Apple never talks about it so everyone just assumes all m1s perform at the Mac mini level but draw the air power).

srousseyOP5y ago

Yeah, but what about having it pull 120W to get better performance? It’s always plugged in. They don’t have experience there (but will hopefully figure it out quickly). This is the right example, thanks.

saagarjha5y ago

Well, Apple TV 4K has one technically ;)

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