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0 pointsiio75y ago0 comments

> I don't really understand this feature creep argument against systemd. I mean, this is not like this is a feature included in PID1, it is a new binary so a separate feature (and I am pretty sure that you can choose to not compile it too if you don't want, like almost any other systemd feature with the exception of systemd itself and journald).

AFAIK systemd and the different components has so many internal dependencies on each other than not much works if you try to pull things apart. You can remove systemd completely, yes, but try to only have systemd as an init system and nothing works!

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m45t3r5y ago

Unless you give me a more concrete example, I don't really think this is true.

For example, right now neither my desktop nor my notebook uses `systemd-networkd` and it works fine. Actually, since I use NixOS even basic things like `hostnamectl` or `timedatectl` are "disabled" (they work in read-only mode since those configs are managed by NixOS). But I do use `systemd-bootd` (so I can get boot information from the early UEFI until user space, try doing the same thing with GRUB+sysVinit).

The only two components that I know it can't be disabled in systemd is the init part and journalctl (because all the other parts of systemd depends on it).

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m45t3r5y ago

Unless you give me a more concrete example, I don't really think this is true.

The only two components that I know it can't be disabled in systemd is the init part and journalctl (because all the other parts of systemd depends on it).

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