> (2) Yes. IN EUROPE. I talked about Brazil. How many times is it going to take for you to understand that having good market competition in one place means absolute jack shit in another?

Obviously? Usually however, there's a reason why the fee is what it is. Have you dug into it? For instance in the US interchange is high because the vast majority of it goes towards rewards programs and loan origination costs. I'll be the first to admit don't know how that maps in Brazil.

However, read back to your earlier post: "(Something that I forgot to mention when you were talking about how Visanet has low rates in Europe: Direct debit cards - zero risk! - charge ~1.9% of the transaction value. Some of them charge a little bit less, but put a sizeable monthly rate on top of it.)"

Did you say anything about the rate being 1.9% in Brazil? No, the only geography you referenced was Europe, which is why I followed up with the, you know, European rate. It sounds like you should just be advocating for a fee cap in BR right?

You really haven't explained why TransferWise is worse than your recommendation, and you keep avoiding the whole "breaking the law and exposing yourself to prison time" bit.

I keep saying, you can keep the foreign currency in your TWB account, and send it to other people later, just like you hold crypto in a wallet. Why bother with DAI and USDC when you can just you know hold USD in your TWB account? A borderless account is a bank account, that you, in Brazil, can open, and hold all all those currencies with banking details in most of those places. For free, I believe!

Frankly, why don't I think people use TransferWise? Obviously I don't think they're dumb. It's new, I don't think they know about it. Borderless launched in 2018 and I suspect Brazil wasn't it's first supported destination. Getting the word out takes time. Read about it and let me know what you think!

> Transferwise uses rates close to what the central bank/governments is paying, which is far from the actual market rate. Plus the whole 6% fee.

No, you're not listening. TransferWise Borderless is a bank account into which you can deposit and retain US dollars or Euros or CAD or NZD, and any other currency you want, even in Brazil. There's no 6% fee because there's no conversion. There's no exchange rate because there's no conversion. Unless you elect to. Read about it and then reply. It stays in the currency which you receive. It's a multi-currency online bank account.

They give you an account number and a routing number in the US, and in SEPA, and in the UK, and in Australia, and so on. You receive a domestic transfer. It shows up in your account in the foreign currency. And it stays in the foreign currency. Then you can send it elsewhere if you want. Or hold onto it.

Doesn't expanding TWB sound way better than crypto? It's nice and regulated, and insured too!

[1] https://transferwise.com/us/multi-currency-account/

> (1) substitute "people" for a "clusters of people with insular trust". Most of these people can not setup an account, but some of them can. They collectively managed their internal accounting and only need to go to the blockchain when a settlement with someone from the outgroup needs to be done. What is so hard to understand about this?

Great, now we are at the 10k libertarian tribes, which conveniently want to impose a great cost (energy-wise - and no, you didn't mention how this is set to improve) on society for their personal freedom. I understand that. Most often these libertarian interests align with criminal interests, I also understand that this is what happens with a bunch of sociopaths...

> (3) You can not hold CAD or NZD or USD or EUR on a bank from Brazil. You have to convert it and there is a 6% fee for it. This is on top of the exchange rate fee from transfer wise.

Can you just communicate with your libertarian tribes there, if you are not one of the persons actually allowed to communicate internationally ;).