Amber Smalltalk (opens in new tab)

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121 pointsowenm5y ago12 comments

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owenmOP5y ago

The Silk web framework built into Amber looks really interesting: https://lolg.it/herby/silk and an introduction here: https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/silk-i...

remexre5y ago

Hey, finally got around to playing with Smalltalk; their interactive tutorial makes a great appetizer.

narcissismo5y ago

Please keep going :)

Using Smalltalk (particularly Pharo) has been an eye-opening experience for me.

Its interesting to see that Amber has a Boolean class which I suppose corresponds to the JS boolean primitive. In other Smalltalks, I've seen a wonderful design where True and False are subclasses of Boolean. This way, there are no conditionals in the implementation of ifTrue: and ifFalse:

_ph_5y ago

Yes, it is a great appetizer. However, that there are no navigation buttons quickly becomes an annyoance. I once pressed a wrong key and had to select ProfStef next. 10 times to get back to where I was :( One page (21?) seems to have a parsing bug.

Qem5y ago

You could just execute 10 timesRepeat: [ ProfStef next ], at least in Pharo.

mark_l_watson5y ago

on my Mac, control-p prints and control-d is a "DoIt."

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homarp5y ago

which browswer you used? on both Firefox and Chrome, pressing "DoIt" gives popup error "Cannot add self to a string."

leaveyou5y ago

Looks like you need to select only the line of code that you want to execute before you press "Do it". Works on Firefox for me.

leaveyou5y ago

Installing Amber 1. The npm package

Unfortunately it's a kind of show stopper for those who don't know npm or nodejs and don't really want to deal with it.

xkriva115y ago

As a proof-of-concept experiment, I tried to do TiddlyWiki-like saving for Amber. So if you do some changes in the code, it can then save the whole "image" as a single HTML file without other dependencies. Only the Legacy IDE works: https://pavel-krivanek.github.io/amber/amber.html

creamytaco5y ago

node.js totally kills this for me (and I bet a lot of other folks). I want nothing to do with that ecosystem (which would be a reason for using Smalltalk on the frontend) and it's (afaik) a hard dependency for Amber.

They certainly don't make it easy not to use it.

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12 comments

owenmOP5y ago

The Silk web framework built into Amber looks really interesting: https://lolg.it/herby/silk and an introduction here: https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/silk-i...

remexre5y ago

Hey, finally got around to playing with Smalltalk; their interactive tutorial makes a great appetizer.

narcissismo5y ago

Please keep going :)

Using Smalltalk (particularly Pharo) has been an eye-opening experience for me.

_ph_5y ago

Qem5y ago

You could just execute 10 timesRepeat: [ ProfStef next ], at least in Pharo.

mark_l_watson5y ago

on my Mac, control-p prints and control-d is a "DoIt."

1 more reply

homarp5y ago

which browswer you used? on both Firefox and Chrome, pressing "DoIt" gives popup error "Cannot add self to a string."

leaveyou5y ago

Looks like you need to select only the line of code that you want to execute before you press "Do it". Works on Firefox for me.

leaveyou5y ago

Installing Amber 1. The npm package

Unfortunately it's a kind of show stopper for those who don't know npm or nodejs and don't really want to deal with it.

xkriva115y ago

creamytaco5y ago

They certainly don't make it easy not to use it.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse