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0 pointsethbr05y ago0 comments

If you're going to cite Snowden, please be accurate.

Remember that one of the leaks was that the NSA tapped unencrypted Google backhaul in transit without Google's knowledge.

There's a difference between panopticon fearmongering and citing specific information we should be wary of. The former leads to apathy. The latter leads to action.

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xtian5y ago

How about this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

ethbr0OP5y ago

That was ATT. It (and all the other exposed operations) hardly support the statement that "all telecom companies and very likely all major tech companies are spying for the US government".

xtian5y ago

The US defense and intelligence apparatuses have been deeply intertwined with private enterprise for many decades. This is a matter of historical fact. But I totally understand if it's more comfortable for you to believe that now things are different despite the fact that no one was ever held to account for what happened in the past.

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Judgmentality5y ago

Whoa. I'm surprised I'd never heard of this before. Thank you.

tehjoker5y ago

Right, that's why I said "very likely" instead of "proven". However, at the point it's pretty clear the tech companies are all competing for pentagon contracts (e.g. Project Maven, JEDI, etc) so the 2013 information has significant potential to be dated.

Also, there's these nuggets:

https://www.fastcompany.com/40481463/facebook-wants-to-hire-...

https://www.rt.com/usa/399256-mattis-amazon-bezos-trump/

Thinking America's largest monopolies and America's government and foreign policy are at odds over more than superficial things is probably not an accurate view of the world. America uses our corporations to advance nebulously defined "national security interests" and corporations use the government to get rich(er).

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0 pointsethbr05y ago0 comments

If you're going to cite Snowden, please be accurate.

Remember that one of the leaks was that the NSA tapped unencrypted Google backhaul in transit without Google's knowledge.

There's a difference between panopticon fearmongering and citing specific information we should be wary of. The former leads to apathy. The latter leads to action.

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xtian5y ago

How about this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

ethbr0OP5y ago

That was ATT. It (and all the other exposed operations) hardly support the statement that "all telecom companies and very likely all major tech companies are spying for the US government".

xtian5y ago

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Judgmentality5y ago

Whoa. I'm surprised I'd never heard of this before. Thank you.

tehjoker5y ago

Also, there's these nuggets:

https://www.fastcompany.com/40481463/facebook-wants-to-hire-...

https://www.rt.com/usa/399256-mattis-amazon-bezos-trump/

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