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0 pointsrfrey5y ago0 comments

Alternatively, they want the NSA to obey the law, and for surveillance-for-profit business models to be forbidden.

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And every other country's government to not spy on internet traffic crossing their borders. Good luck communicating with somebody in China. If you use TOR or a VPN or any kind of tunnel over some other service, they'll figure out what you're doing eventually even if they can't read the content.

guyzero5y ago

"surveillance-for-profit business models to be forbidden"

Are you going to ban TV networks and credit card companies next? Grocery store loyalty programs? Practically every company these days collects about their users and customers.

Ensorceled5y ago

Credit companies would do just fine if they couldn't sell your data. Loyalty programs don't need to sell your data, they existed before it was even possible. TV networks ... wait, how is broadcast TV even collecting your data.

None of these businesses NEED to collect and sell your behavioural and demographic data to exist. TV and newspapers would probably start doing OK if precision targeted ads were not possible.

oaiey5y ago

Google how modern TV spies on what you view on your screen (not talking your Netflix App here ;))

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bmn__5y ago

In a just world — where the basic human right of privacy counts as much as the basic human rights of free speech, free travel, free reproduction, not being tortured or enslaved etc. — they would be forbidden. Let them figure out a way to be profitable without infringing.

Unfortunately, the Americans, the Russians and the Chinese are against pervasive privacy and pay only lip service to the UDHR at best.

krageon5y ago

I don't see why banning those things should be controversial or extreme in any way. Predatory business interests need to die.

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