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0 pointscurt155y ago0 comments

CUDA is an industry standard, and AMD's lack of support is why NVIDIA enjoys a monopoly in the deep learning community.

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opan5y ago

It's proprietary. People being vendor-locked into a proprietary thing doesn't mean everyone can or should support it.

MaxBarraclough5y ago

Is this due to CUDA being a technically superior product, or is it just that it's entrenched?

OpenCL/AMD is a usable and mature platform, right?

my1235y ago

OpenCL as implemented by AMD is definitely not very usable.

AMD themselves aren’t really committed to OpenCL given the state of their OCL 2.x drivers and went to their own AMD-only path (ROCm/HIP), which is broken... (and only supported on a single gen of customer GPUs today, Vega) It doesn’t even work on RDNA or RDNA2 officially today.

solarkraft5y ago

I've been told that OpenCL is in a whole different league than CUDA due to a worse API and much smaller ecosystem.

I have, however, seen attempts to use Vulkan for compute. Could that be a viable way forward?

MaxBarraclough5y ago

I'd say OpenCL is a pretty good API, it's just that because it's in C and it allows for quite fine-grain control, it takes a bit of orchestration to get anything off the ground. If you want more convenience, there are a few wrappers for it, in various languages.

It's true that its ecosystem is sadly lacking.

my1235y ago

Using Vulkan for compute is still a much worse developer experience, it isn't really a reasonable alternative.

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opan5y ago

It's proprietary. People being vendor-locked into a proprietary thing doesn't mean everyone can or should support it.

MaxBarraclough5y ago

Is this due to CUDA being a technically superior product, or is it just that it's entrenched?

OpenCL/AMD is a usable and mature platform, right?

my1235y ago

OpenCL as implemented by AMD is definitely not very usable.

solarkraft5y ago

I've been told that OpenCL is in a whole different league than CUDA due to a worse API and much smaller ecosystem.

I have, however, seen attempts to use Vulkan for compute. Could that be a viable way forward?

MaxBarraclough5y ago

It's true that its ecosystem is sadly lacking.

my1235y ago

Using Vulkan for compute is still a much worse developer experience, it isn't really a reasonable alternative.

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