China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang (opens in new tab)

How come a link to REUTERS article, with the exact headline is flagged?

The situation with China is going to be the greatest challenge of the 21st century.. Although, when I say China, I mean the CCP, it is unfortunate but most people today equate China with CCP.

I really don't know what is the best solution, and what we as a western community can do to make changes. It seems to me that China won't change until it changes itself from the inside, if it will ever even happen..

If the companies don’t stop buying cottons there, we can stop buying clothes from those companies. I always try to buy products from the companies that respect their workers and environment.

The West will pretend it didn't know anything until it sees videos of the mass graves.

Oh come on, it's another piece of Adrian Zenz disinformation

These people are doomed absolutely no one will help them in any way and although they are many they can never reach the critical mass to start a revolution. 570k isn't much in china.

"And so the idea... I'm not going to speak out against what he's doing in Hong Kong, what he's doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China, and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful, I said — by the way, he said he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and their leaders are expected to follow." - Supposedly the leader of the free world

If I didn't know better I would suspect they are being intentionally ironic.

Why has this article been [flagged]?

Why is this flagged? Didn't know the CCP had that many supported on HN.

Vaguely related, in that it involves harvesting cotton in Asia: Turkmenistan uses "forced labour" for the cotton harvest. As I understand it, they need a huge number of people for 2-3 months, so people get drafted in. From the point of view of human rights I suppose it's no worse than a compulsory military service. (Or am I missing something?) Nevertheless, many people would prefer not to buy that cotton or clothes made from it, and perhaps such products shouldn't be sold internationally at all.

Center for Global Policy said

For some reasons I thought more or less forced labor has always been part of the communist doctrine.

You are suppossed to always have a job whether you like it or not. The Xjinjiang thing brings this to a new level but I'm not entirely surprised.

When were the dissidents treated fairly in communist systems?

Nothing will happen. The US/UK bloc wouldn't have done anything about the Nazi Holocaust if Germany hadn't started invading its neighbors.

More Western propaganda.

legacy of Henry Kissinger.

We do need shirts?

A US-based think tank releases a report accusing a rival of genocide. I would be highly suspicious of this and look at it carefully.

For example, it’s authored by Adrian Zenz, a religious zealot who feels “led by God” to research Chinese minority groups. If you dig into his research and his credentials, it’s all pretty flimsy.

But, it fits the narrative the US would like to have about China, so everyone eats it up uncritically.

1. Article from Dec 2020.

2. Center for Global Policy rebranded Newlines (funded by a private university with only 120 students that has thinktank and publishing arm), aka another front used to launder Zenz studies.

3. Basically rehash of Zenz Jamestown hit piece, the 500K was based off CCP press releases of rural transfer programs. Literally misconstruing official CCP media bragging about poverty alleviation into coerced labour which internet then misconstrues as unpaid slave labour. Actual piece itself doesn't have any credible evidence of forced labour other than Zenz thinks there's coersion because some folks got paid less than they were promised.

4. Same report / propaganda drive that started the XPCC sanctions in the first place, culminating to recent H&M drama.