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0 pointschronic20224y ago0 comments

> Yes, just like there are individual stocks that beat the market. How do you pick them?

The same way you picked your passive index fund: look at 20-30+ years of data.

Unfortunately, VTI, VT, VOO all underperform the top hedge funds, when evaluated over 20 years (risk adjusted return, downside deviation, and absolute return). I’d go further back but VTI was created in 2001 whereas the hedge funds were created in 1980/1990.

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dasil0034y ago

I picked S&P because it's one of a handful of widely reported indices and it was created roughly in the same era as the original vanguard index fund, not by cherry-picking data.

Your statement that major index funds all underperform the top hedge funds is tautological, of course the ones that beat the averages are the top funds. What I'm genuinely curious is: how many hedge funds were there in 2001 and how would you identify the top ones?

orojackson4y ago

Simple: don't be poor and know people (/s).

The other important question is whether a retail investor can join it. I know someone like baobabKoodaa [1] would shout from the rooftops, "You're moving the goalposts, grandparent, waaaaaaaaaaah!" Well, I'm not grandparent, so my goalposts are completely different from theirs.

My goalpost is whether a retail investor like me can get in on those high-flying funds. If not, then in the retail universe, they may as well not exist. Thus, I'm better off investing in VTI/VXUS and using the rest of my spare time coming up with some funny ways to challenge my party in a D&D one-shot.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=baobabKoodaa

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