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0 pointsmarshray14y ago0 comments

Undoubtedly there has been, the question is whether or not it's been released from the lab.

I don't know about its cryptography specifically, but Stuxnet, for example, is a botnet regarded as a game-changer precisely because it was such a professional hit.

BTW, I'm trying to see if there's any interest in a collaboration on the cryptanalysis of this custom encryption system. Anyone with an interest please ping me. It may turn out to be nothing.

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Xk14y ago

(1) You should put your email in your "about" section so the rest of us can see it.

(2) Do you have the source of it? Do you have a non-obfuscated version?

(3) Even if the answer to both questions in (2) is "yes", I still doubt any serious cryptographers would take a look at it. They (mostly) do things to write papers, and you don't get a paper out of "we broke a really weak encryption algorithm in a botnet". The chances that the paper is instead "this botnet has a reasonable encryption algorithm" are so slim, they won't consider it.

(4) That said, there are a number of non-serious cryptographers who would find it an interesting challenge, but if they can't break it, it still doesn't mean it's any good.

marshrayOP14y ago

(1) done.

(2) No, I haven't heard of anyone getting the source. There are 4.5M PCs with an obfuscated binary, so that should be obtainable. We can de-obfuscate it ourselves (it obviously has to load into memory at some point), or we can also ask other researchers who have already done this. The latter is likely to be successful according to 'who' and 'how serious' we have interested.

(3) You never know and it never hurts to ask. Don't forget, they also often have students looking for projects. Anti-botnet ops is an active research topic in data security.

(4) Yep. I doubt anyone would consider using it for anything else.

JoachimSchipper14y ago

I'd be interested in a look at a readable source, too.

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