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0 pointsRhodesianHunter4y ago0 comments

Kotlin becomes the default on Android, more people are writing Kotlin, there's more pressure on Java to adopt the best Kotlin features.

If you look at most of the recent additions to Java, they were in Kotlin from the beginning. This is no coincidence.

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hocuspocus4y ago

And they were in Scala, Groovy, C# ... before Kotlin was even a thing. There's zero evidence people on the OpenJDK governing board care about Android at all, rather the opposite.

blacktriangle4y ago

Except Scala brought along some improvements and a whole managerie of other features to manage, Groovy with its gradual typing was simultaneously too far away from Java and yet too similar, and C# means opting into a whole different platform and perpetually living downstream of whatever MS wants to do.

Kotlin absolutely nailed the "meaningfully better than Java while staying pedantically true to the existing semantics" in a way that none of the alternatives did even if they did come first.

hocuspocus4y ago

It is still completely irrelevant to Java's evolution since Java 7.

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0 pointsRhodesianHunter4y ago0 comments

Kotlin becomes the default on Android, more people are writing Kotlin, there's more pressure on Java to adopt the best Kotlin features.

If you look at most of the recent additions to Java, they were in Kotlin from the beginning. This is no coincidence.

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hocuspocus4y ago

And they were in Scala, Groovy, C# ... before Kotlin was even a thing. There's zero evidence people on the OpenJDK governing board care about Android at all, rather the opposite.

blacktriangle4y ago

Kotlin absolutely nailed the "meaningfully better than Java while staying pedantically true to the existing semantics" in a way that none of the alternatives did even if they did come first.

hocuspocus4y ago

It is still completely irrelevant to Java's evolution since Java 7.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse