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But if you do "song-replacement" then the video is now edited, and loses all credibility.

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Stupid question: How do you know that the video isn't "edited"?

It clearly has been edited to add the subtitles and the watermark to the top left corner and it has fade to black and then fade in their logo and donation link at the end.

lucideer4y ago

There's a reasonable argument that deepfakes are challenging our ability to rely on video evidence in general, but saying any editing at all removes credibility is pretty out there. Almost every video on the internet has been edited in some way.

pc864y ago

Are there deepfakes out there that can withstand even a cursory technical interrogation? Most of them are extremely obvious once you've seen two or three.

nextlevelwizard4y ago

Depends what you mean by "technical".

There are deep fakes that are good enough to fool some humans. There are deep fakes that are good enough to pass by some AI detection. Then there are some deep fakes that can not pass either.

By definition this is unquatifiable problem since you won't know how many deep fakes you aren't detecting since you aren't detecting them.

lucideer4y ago

While it's blatantly obvious from the context and subject matter that they're fake, I did find quite a few of the Sassy Justice[0] series' examples to be quite convincing from a technical standpoint (I imagine they could have been undetectable given more subtle context & subject matter)

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

hirundo4y ago

So post the video with the copyright-material-subtracted audio, plus a link to the unedited audio.

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nextlevelwizard4y ago

Stupid question: How do you know that the video isn't "edited"?

It clearly has been edited to add the subtitles and the watermark to the top left corner and it has fade to black and then fade in their logo and donation link at the end.

lucideer4y ago

pc864y ago

Are there deepfakes out there that can withstand even a cursory technical interrogation? Most of them are extremely obvious once you've seen two or three.

nextlevelwizard4y ago

Depends what you mean by "technical".

There are deep fakes that are good enough to fool some humans. There are deep fakes that are good enough to pass by some AI detection. Then there are some deep fakes that can not pass either.

By definition this is unquatifiable problem since you won't know how many deep fakes you aren't detecting since you aren't detecting them.

lucideer4y ago

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

hirundo4y ago

So post the video with the copyright-material-subtracted audio, plus a link to the unedited audio.

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