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> Give us a universe where all the beings are powered by an infinite source of energy so they don't need to chase, catch, kill and eat each other.

> Problem solved; would have expected God could figure this out.

Why not go further? A universe that's entirely static populated by entities frozen in some joyous state has no evil. Hell, a universe that doesn't exist doesn't have evil either.

It's often pretty easy to optimize for one quality.

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liberalbias9984y ago

I agree; what I am trying to say; is there is no excuse for God. People have spent centuries making excuses most of them much smarter people than me. In a 21st century context it seems apparent that Gods possible excuses for creating a universe that mandates suffering are running out.

tablespoonOP4y ago

> I agree; what I am trying to say; is there is no excuse for God. People have spent centuries making excuses most of them much smarter people than me. In a 21st century context it seems apparent that Gods possible excuses for creating a universe that mandates suffering are running out.

I mean, an obvious "excuse" is that he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering).

pmoriarty4y ago

"he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering)"

God doesn't have to choose any quality over any other.

An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

tablespoonOP4y ago

> An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

The obvious issue with a statement like that is that a god would have a very different perspective than yours, and it assumes that you could actually define perfect or know it when you see it.

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liberalbias9984y ago

tablespoonOP4y ago

I mean, an obvious "excuse" is that he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering).

pmoriarty4y ago

"he's not optimizing for the one single quality you chose (absolutely minimized suffering)"

God doesn't have to choose any quality over any other.

An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

tablespoonOP4y ago

> An omnipotent god could make a universe perfect in every way... but the universe is not perfect in every way. Why not?

The obvious issue with a statement like that is that a god would have a very different perspective than yours, and it assumes that you could actually define perfect or know it when you see it.

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