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0 pointsyojo4y ago0 comments

The required changes to liberty are substantially different. Giving up your hobbies means making a major change to your life. Getting two shots takes a cumulative 2ish hours.

Do you claim you receive substantial benefits from not getting a shot? Because I claim society gets substantial benefits from you getting vaccinated.

You’re trying to make this a binary thing, but we live in a society where collectively we try to make small trades in liberty for collective benefit.

I do expect you not to drive 60MPH in front of my house where my children play. I do not expect you to give up tennis.

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mlang234y ago

Frankly, if you insist I get a biannual shot for your reasons, I insist that you give up tennis because I dont see why I should pay a single penny for your spare time activities.

I am willing to retract my retarded claim if you do the same.

yojoOP4y ago

You agree that as society you make some concessions for the greater good? I assume you (roughly) coming with speed limits, yes?

And driving slower almost certainly takes more of your time every year than getting a shot. Both measures save other people’s lives. I don’t think you have a leg to stand on here.

mlang234y ago

Yes, my "substiantial benefit" is not exposing my system to an artificially created addiction/dependency on fabricated meds. What you seem to ignore is the long term effect of going down that path as a society. If the death rate in my age group were higher, believe me, I would take a shot. But since I am statistically not really at risk, I prefer to not make myself dependent on vaccination to survive.

yojoOP4y ago

I’m not aware of any evidence that vaccinations of any kind cause addiction. Please provide citations.

mlang234y ago

Almost all vaccine producers claim effectivity for about 9 months, right? So after 9 months, you need to get another shot. Since you have decided your immune system can not handle COVID on its own, you have now a dependency on the vaccine. Thats what I call an addiction. Better english word is probably a dependency...

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mlang234y ago

Frankly, if you insist I get a biannual shot for your reasons, I insist that you give up tennis because I dont see why I should pay a single penny for your spare time activities.

I am willing to retract my retarded claim if you do the same.

yojoOP4y ago

You agree that as society you make some concessions for the greater good? I assume you (roughly) coming with speed limits, yes?

And driving slower almost certainly takes more of your time every year than getting a shot. Both measures save other people’s lives. I don’t think you have a leg to stand on here.

mlang234y ago

yojoOP4y ago

I’m not aware of any evidence that vaccinations of any kind cause addiction. Please provide citations.

mlang234y ago

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