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0 pointsunraveller4y ago0 comments

The creators say they don't want people not of their ilk joining so this idea that open debate is welcome is disingenuous. They don't allow anyone to federate with the main instance either if they don't also toe the political line.

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reginold4y ago

Can you explain what "don't allow anyone to federate with the main instance" means in this case? Is it like you can host your own server, but the "index" of servers at lenny.ml won't list you unless you meet their standards?

Seems acceptable to me (anyone else can host their own index right?) just trying to understand.

throwawaysea4y ago

Yes it’s like that. Mastodon has the same thing going on, where the main index from their official site and the biggest instances won’t peer with you (let your users and theirs interact in each other’s instances) unless you implement their rules and moderation requirements in your instance. For mastodon what that means is that instances that aren’t progressive/far left aren’t welcome and are essentially not viable because they have no user base or network effects to seed their community with.

stevenicr4y ago

What does this look like to the average user?

I'm imagining - finding a topic or person or something that you want to follow, and then, your 'instance' / host pops up with "the thing you are trying to get data from is banned from this host".

Seems like an excellent opportunity to upsell someone to starting their own host / own rules system.. Star your own droplet for $10 a month maybe?

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reginold4y ago

Fascinating. Well that clearly doesn't work. It's almost like having an index at all forces a ranking or framing. And so perhaps the index itself is what needs to go.

ddingus4y ago

I did not say it was welcome. Learning how to talk with others and understand one another better is real work.

I did say it was worth doing, more or less.

type04y ago

> I did say it was worth doing

it is not worth anyone's time

ddingus4y ago

Generally speaking, that is true until it isn't.

People experiencing hard times is one catalyst.

Another is loneliness.

There are others.

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reginold4y ago

Seems acceptable to me (anyone else can host their own index right?) just trying to understand.

throwawaysea4y ago

stevenicr4y ago

What does this look like to the average user?

I'm imagining - finding a topic or person or something that you want to follow, and then, your 'instance' / host pops up with "the thing you are trying to get data from is banned from this host".

Seems like an excellent opportunity to upsell someone to starting their own host / own rules system.. Star your own droplet for $10 a month maybe?

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reginold4y ago

Fascinating. Well that clearly doesn't work. It's almost like having an index at all forces a ranking or framing. And so perhaps the index itself is what needs to go.

ddingus4y ago

I did not say it was welcome. Learning how to talk with others and understand one another better is real work.

I did say it was worth doing, more or less.

type04y ago

> I did say it was worth doing

it is not worth anyone's time

ddingus4y ago

Generally speaking, that is true until it isn't.

People experiencing hard times is one catalyst.

Another is loneliness.

There are others.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse