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0 pointsPaulDavisThe1st4y ago0 comments

> Clovis-Americans have certain unique rights based on legal theories that their ancestors were the first human occupants of the land

Please point to these rights and legal theories. Do you just mean NAGPRA?

As far as I know, whatever legal rights any native American people have in the Americas at this point in time are based purely on them being here when Europeans arrived near the start of the 16th century.

Whether they had been the occupants for 400 years or 40,000 years wouldn't make any difference to the treaties that were signed (and generally abrogated).

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imbnwa4y ago

This whole digression seems like a weird snipe at "identity politics" when in this particular case, its pretty clear cut.

beenBoutIT4y ago

As of 1995 more than 50% of people who identified as Indigenous preferred the term "American Indian".[0]

It's interesting how people outside of a group can erase that group's identity just by taking away the name that they use to define themselves. Any politically correct American has to say "Native American" or use the even more generic term "Indigenous People" while the majority of the people being referred to understand themselves to be "Indians" or "American Indians". Hundreds of years being known as Indians and having that taken away by scholars and academics. It's a sad final twist on an exceptionally sad story.

0.https://www.census.gov/prod/2/gen/96arc/ivatuck.pdf

PaulDavisThe1stOP4y ago

This is perhaps a better take on the things (from https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/faq/did-you-know)

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What is the correct terminology: American Indian, Indian, Native American, or Native?

All of these terms are acceptable. The consensus, however, is that whenever possible, Native people prefer to be called by their specific tribal name. In the United States, Native American has been widely used but is falling out of favor with some groups, and the terms American Indian or indigenous American are preferred by many Native people.

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This also provides a good overview through a series of personal viewpoints:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170913022941/https://indiancou...

_moof4y ago

I don't get where this "has to" business is coming from. If they want to be called Indians or American Indians, then I'll call them that. There's no need to get wound up.

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