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0 pointsResearchCode4y ago0 comments

For instance, the "sources" accessible through those keywords put in a google search query.

(Entertaining the question as if my claim was more controversial than any other in this thread, that is, as if Barcelona was not infamous as a crime ridden s hole where visitors are asked to practice war zone vigilance.)

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vidarh4y ago

Putting "crime capitals of Europe" into Google gets me multiple lists, only one of which includes Barcelona. The one which includes it places it 26th in Europe, behind a whole lot of cities I've felt totally safe in.

pvaldes4y ago

Feeling safe in the street is one thing, but those ranks miss that the big fat crime will try its best to be invisible and unnoticed.

January 2021: "Police in Spain have reported the seizure of 827000 ecstasy pills, 76 Kg of amphetamine, 39.5 kg of crystal methamphetamine, 89 kg of cannabis, and 1.65 kg of cocaine in what they claim to be the biggest drug haul in Europe"

https://www.addictionjournal.org/posts/police-seize-largest-...

Barcelona still has a huge problem with drugs

In this sense, yes, has well earned sadly a place among European crime capitals. Indirect analysis as looking for sewage water biomarkers, place Barcelona among the European cities with a biggest abuse of cocaine, slightly bigger than London. This means that 5 millions of citizens in Barcelona consume more cocaine that 9 millions in London, so they almost double the average dose per capita. Antwerp (half a million) is a disaster doubling the London/Barcelona values in a weekend. They could go to Barcelona to detox. Those are recent values taken from here:

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/html/pods/waste-wa...

vidarh4y ago

Being "safe on the streets" is what this discussion was about. Drug use is irrelevant to what was being discussed, with user "ResearchCode" claiming that Barcelona is a place where people "are asked to practice war zone vigilance", something they've failed to back up with any kind of sources.

With respect to the drug use, I don't buy that measuring use is a valid proxy for measuring abuse or "disasters" - assuming all use is abuse is a severely puritan value judgement. I'd much rather be around an ecstasy or cannabis user than an alcohol user for example.

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CyanBird4y ago

> For instance, the "sources" accessible through those keywords put in a google search query.

We are on hackernews, here it is part of the etiquette to source claims

Please ensure that you do so

mrexroad4y ago

How much time have you spent in Barcelona?

ResearchCodeOP4y ago

Enough not to get gaslighted.

ThePowerOfFuet4y ago

I lived there for eight years until this year, and what you're saying is entirely divorced from reality.

ashtonkem4y ago

I’ve never understood why people sometimes get angry when they’re asked for evidence to back their assertions.

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vidarh4y ago

pvaldes4y ago

Feeling safe in the street is one thing, but those ranks miss that the big fat crime will try its best to be invisible and unnoticed.

https://www.addictionjournal.org/posts/police-seize-largest-...

Barcelona still has a huge problem with drugs

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/html/pods/waste-wa...

vidarh4y ago

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CyanBird4y ago

> For instance, the "sources" accessible through those keywords put in a google search query.

We are on hackernews, here it is part of the etiquette to source claims

Please ensure that you do so

mrexroad4y ago

How much time have you spent in Barcelona?

ResearchCodeOP4y ago

Enough not to get gaslighted.

ThePowerOfFuet4y ago

I lived there for eight years until this year, and what you're saying is entirely divorced from reality.

ashtonkem4y ago

I’ve never understood why people sometimes get angry when they’re asked for evidence to back their assertions.

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