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0 pointscsomar4y ago0 comments

> He sexually assaulted her, then at some later point in time they had a consensual relationship.

I understand that the consensual relationship doesn't rule out the sexual assault. I do have, however, trouble digesting such relations. Is it normal that people get into relations with other people that they intend to take to court?

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garbagetime4y ago

I would say that it is not greatly unusual. A frequent scenario, albeit slightly different, is that sexual assault occurs partway through an otherwise consensual relationship. And then the relationship continues for some time.

ceejayoz4y ago

> Is it normal that people get into relations with other people that they intend to take to court?

Yes, it's very normal. Abusive partners can be very skilled at breaking down their victims; "you're so worthless, no one but me will ever love you" sort of scenarios. It's a very common phenomenon.

vadfa4y ago

Oh, let me explain some things about women...

cafard4y ago

Be my guest, if you are a woman. If you aren't, then I think this is what even I'd have to call mansplaining.

[edit: added 'this' initially omitted]

Viliam12344y ago

How a person perceives themselves, and how other people perceive them, those can be two quite different things. I agree that women are more qualified to talk about the former, but the latter is also interesting.

pvaldes4y ago

A part of the advantages of being human is that you can understand other humans. Having exactly the same pain receptors, eyes and body temperature... Yes, men can talk and understand about how women feel.

And "mansplaining" is a concept that was created to justify having smaller seats in a train basically. And to target and ashame people that cames in different sizes and shapes. The solution to mansplaining whatever it means is simple: bigger seats.

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rkk34y ago

> Is it normal

Normal? He was the 7th most powerful person in the CCP, in a country of 1.4 Billion. He was then a 65 year old having a "relationship" with a then 25 year-old...

louhike4y ago

"Is it normal?" just sounds like you saying "it isn't normal, she did something bad", almost putting the guilt on her. The thing is, it's just of no importance. We do not have the whole context, she might have loved him or saw an interest in the relationship, but it does not matter for this. It does not change the crime of the sexual assault.

david384y ago

That’s not at all what’s being asked. It was an honest question and you are attacking the asker for not being as woke as you in how relationships of victims often play out.

csomarOP4y ago

I'm not putting the guilt on anybody. I just have a hard time to understand the dynamics of such relations. I don't have any hidden motives for my comment.

> she might have loved him or saw an interest in the relationship, but it does not matter for this

That's exactly the part I have trouble digesting. If I was sexually assaulted by person (that I want to take them to jail for it), how can I pursue a relation (later) with them? I don't think, also, that I'll be able to love such a person. But I guess that's just me?

secondaryacct4y ago

I disagree. Yes the law is the law and he should not have raped her, but she also should have had the moral fortitude not to then get into an affair with him.

The guy checks all the boxes, and will have to be punished, but giving the appearance of a scorned mistress doesn't help her convince something so wrong happened a decade ago.

But, no need to be perfect to he heard, and she'll have to have her chance.

krageon4y ago

> she also should have had the moral fortitude not to then get into an affair with him.

> giving the appearance of a scorned mistress doesn't help her convince

Given that we are certain both of those things can exist together, the case must at least be investigated. People should not have to be punished (or disbelieved) for being what they are: imperfect beings.

posterboy4y ago

GP:

> "Is it normal?" just sounds like you saying "it isn't normal, she did something bad", almost putting the guilt on her.

You:

> I disagree.

Also you:

> she also should have had the moral fortitude not to ...

This seems to be a contradiction, unless you disagree on some metalevel, disagreeing with the course of events in general.

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