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0 pointsanm894y ago0 comments

But what is, if not Visual Basic? Do you shoot for what has had longevity, or what's rising?

But what is, if not Motorola 68000 Assembly? Do you shoot for what has had longevity, or what's rising?

Pointing out that there is not absolute certainty about what is the top choice for a better idea does not make php, or visual basic, or 68000 worth spending your time on in 2021.

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anm89OP4y ago

Fine: python, ruby, go, rust, elixir, c, java, javascript, plenty more.

Pick whatever you want. Just don't pick a language that is known to be on it's last legs.

detaro4y ago

Purely from the outside (I don't really use either), ruby looks more dead than PHP nowadays.

Mikeb854y ago

How so? Ruby just released a new version with a JIT and new concurrency model. Rails is releasing a new major version later this year with a bunch of great improvements. Shopify, Stripe and others are putting a ton of improvements into the Ruby interpreter. Many large tech companies still use it. Many startups still use it. If nothing else, it's still a popular scripting language.

It's not as 'trendy' as it once was, but it's better than ever and still widely used.

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brailsafe4y ago

Ya, but PHP is actually still being used in a lot of agencies and in certain types of work. Far more than elixer and rust, probably just below ruby.

Also I wasn't pointing out what you say, you're reading into it a bit. I haven't used PHP in a long ass time. But it seems like not a bad choice for certain markets, at least as much as Python and Ruby imo

Zababa4y ago

PHP is used far more than Ruby. Wordpress alone dwarfes any Ruby usage.

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anm89OP4y ago

Compare what the PHP jobs pay or the career path they put you on compared to elixir or ruby. Not even the same ball park. Not even the same sport.

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dreyfan4y ago

> Just don't pick a language that is known to be on it's last legs.

I’ve heard that exact sentiment over and over since the RoR community aggressively started with their anti-php agenda in about 2006.

lmm4y ago

Funny, Ruby seems like the language that's most obviously in decline right now. (Though as a Scala fan I shouldn't throw too many stones).

simion3144y ago

I bet that there is a bigger demand for PHP devs then all the Rust,Go and Elixir combined.

So if you need a job you would probably have better chances knowing PHP then knowing Rust. But if in your area is raining with Rust jobs then go ahead and learn only Rust.

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anm89OP4y ago

Fine: python, ruby, go, rust, elixir, c, java, javascript, plenty more.

Pick whatever you want. Just don't pick a language that is known to be on it's last legs.

detaro4y ago

Purely from the outside (I don't really use either), ruby looks more dead than PHP nowadays.

Mikeb854y ago

It's not as 'trendy' as it once was, but it's better than ever and still widely used.

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brailsafe4y ago

Ya, but PHP is actually still being used in a lot of agencies and in certain types of work. Far more than elixer and rust, probably just below ruby.

Zababa4y ago

PHP is used far more than Ruby. Wordpress alone dwarfes any Ruby usage.

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anm89OP4y ago

Compare what the PHP jobs pay or the career path they put you on compared to elixir or ruby. Not even the same ball park. Not even the same sport.

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dreyfan4y ago

> Just don't pick a language that is known to be on it's last legs.

I’ve heard that exact sentiment over and over since the RoR community aggressively started with their anti-php agenda in about 2006.

lmm4y ago

Funny, Ruby seems like the language that's most obviously in decline right now. (Though as a Scala fan I shouldn't throw too many stones).

simion3144y ago

I bet that there is a bigger demand for PHP devs then all the Rust,Go and Elixir combined.

So if you need a job you would probably have better chances knowing PHP then knowing Rust. But if in your area is raining with Rust jobs then go ahead and learn only Rust.

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