> If you are writing toy programs in your mom's basement sure but every real world clojure project I have work with had to use Java libraries.
That's OK, most real world Clojure and ClojureScript projects I've worked on didn't had to use Java libraries, maybe 10% of them had to have Java code or used Clojure-wrapped Java libraries. Everyone's experience is different :)
> When I said 'not writing Java' I was obviously talking about the JVM.
Yeah, that's not super obvious as normally people consider Java the language to be something else than JVM the runtime.