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0 pointsedanm4y ago0 comments

Funny how taste works - I feel the opposite.

In the case of a disease, there's really nothing she can do, and iirc the film implies the hard choice here was to decide to have a child even knowing that will die.

In the car of an accident, there is the feeling that she could literally have prevented her daughter's death by preventing the accident, but "chooses" not to. The free will implications of that are much more interesting imo.

(To be clear, it's one of my favorite stories and also one of my favorite movies.)

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david-gpu4y ago

> the hard choice here was to decide to have a child even knowing that [they] will die

Knowing that my children will suffer and die is the main reason why I didn't want to have any. Now I have two.

Funnily, it's the same reason my own mother didn't want to have kids either. Yet, here we are. I suspect it is a pretty common feeling.

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Sitio4y ago

I still think it's the right decision not to have kids.

I myself would prefer not to been born (while my life is relatively easy)

In dune there is a story part were the ruler knows what he needs to do but also realizes that he is not strong enough and knows that his son has to fullfil it (I forgot what it is about) but I feel as soon as we achieve the ability to self determine things like if we want to make kids, we should stop doing it as we might not have the right to create new life.

Don't get me wrong, this is not black and white thinking: have kids if you want.

Evolutionary everything and everyone is programed to stay alive and procreate. Fighting against it is hard.

It's easier to make this life easier, better etc than staying your ground and not making kids.

We tried actually and it didn't work out after 3 month. That made it much easier to not try again. But as you see, thinking about it and what you do is not black and white.

gonehome4y ago

I think this reasoning doesn't hold up imo.

The vast majority of people are happy to exist, even people that experience a lot of suffering. Even if you ignore everything else, just that metric suggests on net it's better to have kids.

> "We should stop doing it as we might not have the right to create new life."

You can't get consent before hand so the best we can do is look at results after. By that it seems choosing to not have kids would be the less ethical position (though I don't personally hold that view - people should do what they want).

In addition to just being a fundamental part of humanity, a spark of intellectual curiosity in an otherwise indifferent universe, and a way to have companionship when you're old.

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ryan-allen4y ago

> In dune there is a story part were the ruler knows what he needs to do but also realizes that he is not strong enough and knows that his son has to fullfil it (I forgot what it is about)

I think you're referring to the Golden Path [0]

[0] https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/The_Golden_Path

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