NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections (opens in new tab)

(politico.eu)

73 pointsgrzaks4y ago11 comments

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m_ke4y ago

And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!"

https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj...

full translation:

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Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros

The Citizen Lab group, which is the source of the accusations for the alleged surveillance of Brejza - as well as prosecutor Ewa Brzosek and lawyer Roman G. - itself states on its website that it is financed, inter alia, by by George Soros' Open Society Foundation, as well as several entities indirectly related to this foundation and supporting left-wing organizations, incl. pro-abortion.

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grzaksOP4y ago

Not all polish press. Just the national, govt controlled television. The same that used materials from compromised smartphone of Krzysztof Brejza in 2019

m_ke4y ago

Yeah I just meant the national (polish) press. I thought fox news was bad but visiting relatives in Poland it was wild to see how much stupid propaganda TVP is spreading.

brnt4y ago

Which, unfortunately, is all the press many citizens will ever see, since so much 'press' has been brought under government control over the last term. The country is reaching Russia-level repression these days.

rasz4y ago

> polish press ... tvp.info

Polish state controlled media

https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/11/12/turning-propaganda-in...

Just few days ago main party pushed 'Lex TVN' amendments thru congress aimed at forcing Discovery Inc. to sell its stake in second biggest TV channel in Poland, somehow miraculously president vetoed the bill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_TVN

grzaksOP4y ago

PiS, the party ruling in Poland since 2015 used Pegasus spyware about 30 times against Krzysztof Brejza, senator and chief of opposition party electoral campaign during 2019 elections.

ajuc4y ago

And also in 2018 against Roman Giertych - advocate of many opposition figures. Basically it's worse than Watergate (because in Watergate at least they used private funds to do the wiretapping while in this case they defrauded state funds to buy Pegasus licence to wiretap opposition before and during elections).

Sadly Poland is barely a democracy anymore so I'm not sure there will be any consequences. At least not as long as they are in power - because they fully control the prosecution office and just stop any lawsuits against themselves.

rosndo4y ago

There exists an easy solution for the Polish people if they were smart enough to act, the current government could go the way of Ceausescu.

But I’d guess all the smart people moved to the UK and rest of EU years ago, leaving only the worst to bicker among themselves.

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a0-prw4y ago

Poland is not a democracy and does not have a democratic culture. They should never have been accepted into the EU. Chuck 'em out and let Russia "talk" to them, the tough guys.

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m_ke4y ago

And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!"

https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj...

full translation:

"""

Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros

"""

grzaksOP4y ago

Not all polish press. Just the national, govt controlled television. The same that used materials from compromised smartphone of Krzysztof Brejza in 2019

m_ke4y ago

Yeah I just meant the national (polish) press. I thought fox news was bad but visiting relatives in Poland it was wild to see how much stupid propaganda TVP is spreading.

brnt4y ago

rasz4y ago

> polish press ... tvp.info

Polish state controlled media

https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/11/12/turning-propaganda-in...

grzaksOP4y ago

PiS, the party ruling in Poland since 2015 used Pegasus spyware about 30 times against Krzysztof Brejza, senator and chief of opposition party electoral campaign during 2019 elections.

ajuc4y ago

rosndo4y ago

There exists an easy solution for the Polish people if they were smart enough to act, the current government could go the way of Ceausescu.

But I’d guess all the smart people moved to the UK and rest of EU years ago, leaving only the worst to bicker among themselves.

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a0-prw4y ago

Poland is not a democracy and does not have a democratic culture. They should never have been accepted into the EU. Chuck 'em out and let Russia "talk" to them, the tough guys.

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