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0 pointsdr_dshiv4y ago0 comments

Avoiding car dependence in cities doesn't mean they will take away your car. It just means that I don't need to use a car to live there.

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Mirioron4y ago

It kind of does though. People online cheer when city centers become closed to cars. Spreading it further probably means restricting cars more.

I don't really disagree with your overall stance, but those two do often go hand in hand. Perhaps that's why progress is slow on that front.

Gigachad4y ago

You still get to have your car, it just means you can't drive it right through the middle of a dense living area, you'll have to park on the edge and walk/tram/scooter in. Which is the best for everyone.

pjmlp4y ago

Except for those in a condition not to easily walk or use any kind of two wheels device.

Then there is the whole issue that local city transportation is pretty lousy, even in Europe.

Sure big cities have it good on the innermost district, live a bit more on the outskirts or in a smaller town and taxi becomes the only option for those not willing to wait between 1-2h for each bus into each direction plus additional commute.

A 30m drive quickly turns into 2h.

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mrsuprawsm4y ago

It also means that, often, it will be slower and/or more inconvenient to use the car.

For example, in my city, for distances inside the urban core, bicycle is usually the fastest mode of transport, public transport is about 1.5x - 2x the bicycle (fine if you are feeling lazy), and car is 1.5x - 3x the bicycle depending on time of day and associated traffic levels.

Sure, if the weather is horrible and I am feeling lazy, I might use my car instead of jumping on the bike, but often after reaching my destination I'll realize that it wasn't really worth taking the car.

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