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0 pointschaostheory4y ago0 comments

> if license requirements benefit consumers you would expect to see consumers at the statehouse demanding legislation

They are. You're just living in a bubble were regulations have already been set.

https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/the-bigger-problem-behind-ca...

https://www.ilo.org/global/topics/geip/WCMS_614394/lang--en/...

> Similar stuff for locksmithing.

https://www.bbb.org/article/news-releases/22797-bbb-scam-ale...

https://www.gvlock.com/blog/how-to-spot-avoid-a-locksmith-sc...

I agree that over regulation is not a good thing, but I strongly feel that there's a need for basic licensing

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R0b0t14y ago

How are those links at all relevant? With experience in two licensed things -- HVAC and locksmithing -- I say the current red tape is red tape.

chaostheoryOP4y ago

In the first set of examples, you have unlicensed work by unlicensed contractors killing people. Survivors are then angry enough at politicians to demand either more strict regulations or better enforcement. It’s a response to your freidman quote

The 2nd example highlights what happens when you have a bunch of unlicensed individuals posing as locksmiths ripping people off because they don’t know how to properly deal with locks. Instead of picking them, they use a drill to destroy the lock and overcharge their victims with new locks. It’s a big problem.

Ie Some regulations are useful.

R0b0t14y ago

I've seen unlicensed and licensed work by licensed contractors kill people. Contractors aren't structural engineers and all of them will try to cheat you.

Locksmiths in my area have a proclivity to drill locks because it's cheaper than picking, save very cheap locks. Some locks can't reasonably be picked even by most locksmiths -- they have other things to do than teach themselves how to pick 1 specific type of lock.

You don't really understand the markets for these things and think you can regulate them.

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bluGill4y ago

The drill to destroy locks is proper security theater. If people knew how easy it was to pick a lock they wouldn't trust security. Drilling takes time and makes the lock look better than it is.

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0 pointschaostheory4y ago0 comments

> if license requirements benefit consumers you would expect to see consumers at the statehouse demanding legislation

They are. You're just living in a bubble were regulations have already been set.

https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/the-bigger-problem-behind-ca...

https://www.ilo.org/global/topics/geip/WCMS_614394/lang--en/...

> Similar stuff for locksmithing.

https://www.bbb.org/article/news-releases/22797-bbb-scam-ale...

https://www.gvlock.com/blog/how-to-spot-avoid-a-locksmith-sc...

I agree that over regulation is not a good thing, but I strongly feel that there's a need for basic licensing

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R0b0t14y ago

How are those links at all relevant? With experience in two licensed things -- HVAC and locksmithing -- I say the current red tape is red tape.

chaostheoryOP4y ago

Ie Some regulations are useful.

R0b0t14y ago

I've seen unlicensed and licensed work by licensed contractors kill people. Contractors aren't structural engineers and all of them will try to cheat you.

You don't really understand the markets for these things and think you can regulate them.

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bluGill4y ago

The drill to destroy locks is proper security theater. If people knew how easy it was to pick a lock they wouldn't trust security. Drilling takes time and makes the lock look better than it is.

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