I was tired of getting vague messages and doing the typical messaging back and forth only to hear the salary was too low or the job didn't have remote.
The tool lets you create a form with a selection of only the filters you want on there. You give a unique link to recruiters that will take them to the your form They can fill in your form (or not) If their responses pass your filters you'll get an email. If their responses fail your filters, the recruiter gets an email saying so, so they know not to bother you again.
The idea is that recruiters can never see your filter values
You can rate limit individual recruiter submissions per day (they have to log in to submit)
Keen for any feedback thanks!
I'm especially keen for any feedback from recruiters if you do decide to use it :)
cheers, dar
This fixes the problem for cold recruiter e-mails I get too, since they seem to scraping LinkedIn for contacts. You can change the character over time to have a sense of when they scraped the data, too.
For example, a human knows that in name "John[Emoji] Doe", the [emoji] isn't likely a legitimate part of John's first name (imagine, if HN permitted, the emoji was a dolphin), whereas, "Renée Doe" a recruiter might copy-and-paste for accuracy.
I develop B2B software in a niche market. How could you have possibly seen any of my work?
Then I thought it would actually be useful to me if i could hear about interesting roles so i made the questions semi-configurable to shorten the form.
It could be useful for them if they could get an indication why their role sucks (they can see which category failed in filtering).
But you're right though. So far, in general, recruiters hate it.
I'd suggest offering a demo mode that users can play with before they sign up. Requiring an email address before users can see anything is going to dissuade a lot of people.
I think the UX could be improved by guiding the user a little bit through the process. When I first signed in, the first thing it showed me was an email template I'm supposed to send to recruiters, but I'd expect the first step to be showing me how to create my custom questionnaire.
The questionnaire setup is kind of intimidating. There are I think 40+ different toggles and questions on a single page. It seems like some UI controls are irrelevant when other controls are disabled (e.g., I think "Reject if no family friendly policies" has no effect unless the corresponding "Include this question" toggle is disabled, but the UI doesn't make that clear. It might be easier to work with if it was more like a UI wizard where the user is only seeing a few options at a time and they can easily skip categories they don't care about.
The perspective also shifts confusingly in the questionnaire. The first question has options "I'm a recruiter," "I'm the hiring manager," and "I don't care about this." These aren't the same "I" right? Like the recruiter can't answer that they don't care about this question, right?
Thanks so much for the constructive feedback. I'll see if i can make all of this better!
dar
Thanks for the comment.
Recruiters on linkedin ignore the "I'm not looking" setting and spam candidates anyway. Linked even gives them tools to do this! So linkedin doesn't fix this issue unfortunately.
You can reply to linkedin spam messages with the filteredreduced link. It's just text. Thats what i do.
Unfortunately linkedin don't offer an api to let me automatically respond to messages on their system. Now that would be awesome if they did!
1. Do you offer a 4d work week? 2. Do you offer parental leave? How much? How long after starting do you become eligible for it? 3. How many days of PTO do you get per year?
I imagine that some of these questions are pretty specific to me, hence my hope that you could add custom questions.
I'll see about adding those questions you mentioned though!
If the recruiter puts inaccurate information in the job listing to try to skew the algorithmic match, it actually wouldn't work; their overly-broad job requirements wouldn't be a fit for your more specific list of tech, so it would show up as a poor match. Only candidates and job listings that have very close requirements/provides would show strong matches. In other words, recruiters are not sending you some tailored thing; they can only create job listings, and the matches only show up to you if they happen to match what you list.
You could also add privacy protections so that recruiters actually can't see your profile at all until you click on a job that you like. You still see the matches and recommendations in your e-mail, so they don't even have to reach out to you. A lot of job sites already do this (automatically recommending you to one or more jobs via e-mail) but they don't have the deep profile data we could compose with questions about more than just tech.
False positives happen, and would probably happen more frequently if I were involved in other circles over email, but I do try to check the folder every now and again to make sure Im not missing anything important, or something that might be interesting
1: Screenshot of the options that I can set 2: Screenshot of the link in a recruiter chat 3: Screenshot of everything the recruiter sees
I should be able to skim the above in 15 seconds. Animated screenshots are best. Don't go embedding a Youtube video unless it shows the entire thing in the first 20 seconds.
FYI, as some people have mentioned: Forcing the recruiter to create an account is a major no-no.
I've added all this to my list!
dar
I'd like to allow recruiters to see some or all of my filter values. For example, my requirement for remote work isn't a secret. I am quite happy for a recruiter to know that rather than having to guess, especially if they have a list of roles to fill, some of which might meet my criteria.
Can you give some options for other currencies? I'm after Japanese Yen.
it's difficult to fully internationalise it with so little time to spend on it tbh
The comments from recruiters in post about a similar form (this is not referring to my tool) sums it up! - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-rolls-6aa95bba_has-anyo...
Recruiters typically charge 20% of your salary to a company that recruits you. If you apply directly to the company and they hire you, they save a lot of money. That gives you a significant advantage over people who rely on recruiters to find them roles. If you're looking for a new job, make a short list of places you'd like to work at and cold email them. You might be surprised just how receptive they are. (This won't work if you're looking at FAANGs though.)
I have not even once gotten anything more than an automated rejection email from all the companies I've applied to online cold.
The only times I've ever gotten to even speak with a human (leading up to phone screen, interview, etc.) was when a recruiter reached out to me first, whether internal or third party.
Even reaching out to recruiters first on LinkedIn always ends up being ignored.
Yes, I've tweaked and tuned my resume countless times, including having it reviewed by reputable people in the industry.
As far as I'm concerned, applying cold is a straight ticket for my resume into a black hole.
A good candidate is a good candidate and they're hard to find no matter the source.
unfortunately linkedin don't provide an api or i would do this automatically
