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0 pointsoneoff7864y ago0 comments

You’re assuming VR is a paradigm shift and not just a gimmicky console like the Wii.

There’s nothing particularly interesting in VR, at least not yet. Most games suck. The ones that don’t are largely stationary with little rotation if at all. There’s a fundamental problem that humans, even when not constrained by space, aren’t very agile, and much less so wearing a vr headset. It still sucks.

I have an index.

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telxosser4y ago

The fitness apps are the most absurd thing. No one that is serious about fitness is working out for any length of time with a headset on.

If you could go to a real virtual gym and lift virtual weights that was no different than lifting real weights, that would be amazing. That would be revolutionary because so many problems would have to be solved.

Instead, the headset has literally solved nothing in the last 30 years. There is a video of Jaron Lanier on youtube showing a vr headset and vr glove in 1990. It could literally be a VR advertisement next year and you wouldn't know the difference.

zmmmmm4y ago

there are bunch of things here that are just simply empirically wrong ...

The fitness apps and communities are real ... there are subscription services with virtual coaches etc. I myself workout at least 45 mins a day. It's the best workout I've ever had - Synthriders, Crazy Kung Fu, Pistol Whip ... they have you dripping with sweat and surprisingly good strength training (as in, my arms are bulking up more than they ever did with actual weights).

And nothing has been solved in 30 years? Do you understand the Quest is a wireless fully stand alone mobile device? Just that alone is a revolution. It does fully controller free hand tracking. It does 6DoF positional tracking with no base stations or external equipment.

I can't really conclude anything other than that you simply have not even looked in real life at modern VR and have no idea what you are talking about.

chaostheory4y ago

I feel that you need to actually try it before dismissing it. I’ve been using VR for HIIT for almost two years now. It can also integrate with your stationary bike or rower. I’ve lost 20 lbs and it helped dropped my cholesterol by 100 point playing VR games.

The only thing absent would be weight lifting. That probably will be integrated with AR and not VR due to safety issues.

chaostheory4y ago

Do you really have an Index? The reason I ask is because I highly disagree with your statement about games being “largely stationary with little rotation at all”. It’s the exact opposite, which is why having a wire is so annoying.

VR is a huge paradigm shift. It’s just still in its infancy. Similar to the internet in the mid 1990s.

oneoff786OP4y ago

Like what games?

chaostheory4y ago

Virtually every first person VR game that isn't a driving or flying sim needs turning or it kills immersion:

- Alyx

- Boneworks

- Blades & Sorcery / GORN

- Skyrim / Fallout 4 VR

- Onward, Zero Caliber, Population One, Contractors

- Racket NX

- Minecraft

- Lone Echo

- holopoint

There's really too many games to name, and I can name more. A huge pain point for me prior to getting the Quest 2 was tangled wires from too much turning.

The only games where there's no turning involved are fitness apps like Fit XR and ping pong. Even Beatsaber and SuperNatural have 360 degree levels. Your comment makes me wonder if you've ever used your Index, or if you even own a VR headset because it sounds bizarre.

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telxosser4y ago

The fitness apps are the most absurd thing. No one that is serious about fitness is working out for any length of time with a headset on.

zmmmmm4y ago

there are bunch of things here that are just simply empirically wrong ...

I can't really conclude anything other than that you simply have not even looked in real life at modern VR and have no idea what you are talking about.

chaostheory4y ago

The only thing absent would be weight lifting. That probably will be integrated with AR and not VR due to safety issues.

chaostheory4y ago

VR is a huge paradigm shift. It’s just still in its infancy. Similar to the internet in the mid 1990s.

oneoff786OP4y ago

Like what games?

chaostheory4y ago

Virtually every first person VR game that isn't a driving or flying sim needs turning or it kills immersion:

- Alyx

- Boneworks

- Blades & Sorcery / GORN

- Skyrim / Fallout 4 VR

- Onward, Zero Caliber, Population One, Contractors

- Racket NX

- Minecraft

- Lone Echo

- holopoint

There's really too many games to name, and I can name more. A huge pain point for me prior to getting the Quest 2 was tangled wires from too much turning.

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