Ahhh, ok. I see where we are disagreeing. You're assuming some equivalencies in what I'm saying that I do not.
> Police, most roads, and certain aspects of the legal system are free at the point of usage.
Sure, and those generally work well because the overhead is low. The per person cost of all of those services combined is extremely low compared to medical expenses. If giving everyone healthcare cost the same as giving every 911 service, this conversation wouldn't be happening.
> It’s bad to have for profit police, court system, and Air Force.
I think government and the monopoly on violence are generally good so long as the government is democratic, so sure.
> Some things ought not be profit driven
Totally agree. Executions and jails for instance. Anything were the service involves inflicting violence or removing rights is probably better left to a democratically elected organization.
> It’s quite disconcerting that someone sees no problem with a person profiting from denying healthcare. I should not be able to enrich myself by denying you health care. Tough decisions need to be made and the motive for the decision should not be profit.
You're confusing the role with the action. I think 'being the organization that prioritizes care' can be profitable and ethical. That's different from saying 'an organization should get paid for saying no to someone'. Those are two different things and you're assuming that you can't have the first without the second. The insurance company doesn't make money off 'saying no', it makes money off codifying rules that distribute healthcare and enforcing them on a set of people buying into those rules. When more people are denied they make more money, but they aren't 'denying to make money'. It's a different incentive structure from you're describing.
Also, nobody in that scenario is 'denying care' they are denying paying for the care. You're still free to go receive the care and pay for it yourself. You can also find a charity and convince them to pay, or crowd fund. That's actually a benefit of the market driven system: there is no such thing as a 'hard' no.
> I am not more important than you or anyone else. I don’t deserve health care before you just because I have more money. That’s a perverse idea.
Totally agree. Having the ability to purchase something is not the same as 'deserving' that something. Two entirely different concepts that live in different systems. One is grounded in the philosophical idea of fairness, and the other in the physical process of voluntary exchange.
> Unfortunately too many Americans embody the Bible’s warning regarding the love of money.
Totally agree here too, as an agnostic, although that's kind of a tangent.