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0 pointsbelval4y ago0 comments

I don't support the convoy, but this still makes me extremely uncomfortable. This is an actual extreme measure. When his father used it, he JAILED communists and "suspected terrorists" in Montreal for more than 24 hours without any evidence, effectively suppressing their rights.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

> police officials sometimes abused their powers without just cause, and some prominent artists and intellectuals associated with the sovereignty movement were detained.

And to all the comments saying Canadians are supporting this move, they also supported it back in 1970. It's when they saw the consequences and that they actually understood how wrong it was that popular support dropped.

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pkd4y ago

His father used the War Measures Act. This act was enacted to chisel down the powers of the WMA and has never been used since it was enacted.

IainIreland4y ago

As a Canadian: this response should not be downvoted. It is correct and important. The War Measures Act used during the October Crisis was a different law; the Emergencies Act, which was just invoked, was passed as a response to concerns about civil liberties and abuse of power under the WMA. Temporary laws made under the Emergencies Act are, unlike the WMA, subject to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

More information on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act

SECProto4y ago

Subject to the charter, subject to the bill of rights, subject to parliamentary review, and mandatory public inquiry afterwards. It's a very sensible law.

belvalOP4y ago

Laws made under the act are subject to the charter unless they invoke the non-withstanding clause.

Furthermore, have you read the link you sent? The entire "Provisions" explains while this is way out of line to deal with protesters in Ottawa.

Using it for "Public Order" as Trudeau is doing, was meant to be a tool against:

"The Act references the definition provided in the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, which includes espionage, sabotage, detrimental foreign influences, activities which support the threat or use of violence for a political, religious or ideological objective; or those activities which threaten to undermine or otherwise destroy, or overthrow the Government of Canada."

ocschwar4y ago

And Canadian Reddit is full of people demanding that Justin Trudeau echo his father's words.

rubatuga4y ago

I mean, it’s a bit of a meme at this point.

908B64B1974y ago

> When his father used it, he JAILED communists and "suspected terrorists" in Montreal for more than 24 hours without any evidence, effectively suppressing their rights.

You'll never guess who was actually planting the bombs at that time. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involvin...

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