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0 pointsmardifoufs4y ago0 comments

Calling the Canadian system robust is just detached from reality. Between the fact that quebec has not even signed the constitution yet, the opportunist and sometimes never ending elections, the total mess that is our constitution and charter... and your comment is in a thread where the government invoked an act that strips away almost all our charter rights and does away with due process. Do you not see the irony? That has never happened even in the USA.

I guess it's just natural for canadians to have this weird smug inferiority complex towards the US but you have to remember that our government admitted to committing a genocide (still ongoing) barely 2 years ago. Also on average even a majority government rarely gets more than 34% of the total votes. But I'm legimately curious as to what parts of our system you see as being so healthy?

Btw saying that the majority of canadians are not concerned at all about setting the precedent of suspending charter rights over a protest is just a complete self own if it was true and I don't think it is. Well at least I hope it isn't

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henrikschroder4y ago

> I guess it's just natural for canadians to have this weird smug inferiority complex towards the US

There was an article in the Montreal Gazette this January that was very earnest, but if you read it with a critical outside perspective, it's absolutely ludicrous:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/josh-freed-flori...

So this guy fled Quebec's corona restrictions for a vacation in Florida, and describes this experience while constantly complaining how Floridians are ignoring corona, and putting in a bunch of digs at the US healthcare system.

But at the same time, why did he go to Florida if everything is so terrible there? And if Canada's healthcare is so great, why was his pre-departure corona test that he needed to take before being let back in to Canada, free and easy to get in Florida? And why was the post-arrival test he needed to do in Quebec, expensive and hard to get?

The amount of Stockholm syndrome and "Canadian apologetics" is completely off-the-charts. I simply cannot understand how you can write an article like this in the first place, it's absolutely deranged.

(The height of irony, of course, is that at the time of the article's publishing, the daily death rate in Quebec was twice as high as the one in Florida.)

mardifoufsOP4y ago

Oh yeah that's another maddening episode. Every single media outlet here in quebec was obsessed by sweden and florida,and was doing some soviet tier governement praising while we had worse numbers than both and some of the worst daily stats per capita.

Also I totally agree on the canadian apologetics. It's really up there with some of the worst. A part from maybe the cognitive dissonance I've seen with Europeans grandstanding on racism in the USA (but don't talk to them about the Roma or moroccans or Muslims or albanians or... etc though, its different & they have totally valid reasons to hate them!).

This is the country that freelyadmitted to a genocide (and a currently occuring one at that) which caused just a bit of controversy, which I guess is good right if we are the worlds first to self declare a genocide? Except that we just... didn't do anything about it. Like we recognized it and flew the flags down for a bit, and that's all you need for a currently occuring genocide. The real debate is obviously talking about how bad american society is at dealing with race relations. 4 years later and the genocide is apparenly still ongoing and no on in government has been prosecuted or penalized, or even lost a siege in parliement over it.

frabbit4y ago

> guess it's just natural for canadians to have this weird smug inferiority complex towards the US

It's one of the less charming facets of Canadian culture.

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