And if you think nobody in America wants to jail journalists and media CEOs, go look at any forum with a substantial amount of Republicans talking freely.
The are not separate phenomenon at different stages, they are a global, coordinated group. They were coordinated by the massive cash flows coordinated by a small group in Russia. The use coordinated tactics, in concert with each other.
> In 2010, Assange gained unauthorized access to a government computer system of a NATO country. In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack.
> Assange conspired with Army Intelligence Analyst Chelsea Manning to crack a password hash to a classified U.S. Department of Defense computer.
If this is true then he is not a journalist.
But yes, we need to take it extremely seriously in the West and fight against any and all encroachments so that we don't slide further towards authoritarianism. Recent trends have been concerning.
It’s especially sad trying to cite him in this context, as we already know that he censors and threatens whistleblowers who ask him to publish documents on Putin.
Coincidentally enough, he has signed a contract with Russian state tv for his own tv show. He’s also been confronted about these facts and doesn’t bother denying any of it.
And that's ignoring the whole rape thing with Assange.
In Czechia up to 1 year for publicly supporting Russia (two people already detained): https://www.praguemorning.cz/expressing-support-for-russia-o...
In Slovakia, supporting [Russian] war propaganda 10 to 25 years: https://spravy.rtvs.sk/2022/02/za-podporu-vojnovej-propagand...
EU banned RT and Sputnik:
"It shall be prohibited for operators to broadcast or to enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast, any content by the legal persons, entities or bodies listed in Annex XV, including through transmission or distribution by any means such as cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or applications, whether new or pre-installed"
RT and Sputnik are literally Russian government entities.
What did this war look like? What actions did the government actually take to fight journalists covering POTUS unfavorably? Because I just remember an incredible amount of pearl clutching by journalists about how dangerous it is to say bad things about the press and how democracy would die in darkness if their credibility was questioned. It never actually stopped them from continuing act the same way.
https://pressgazette.co.uk/trump-vs-media-freedom-of-press-d...
Now that is out of the way, should we switch our focus back to how Russia suppress any domestic news about the ongoing Ukriane war? Or “special operation” as it’s only allowed to be called?
As if it's wrong to point out that tweeting and a 15 year jail sentence are not equivalent.
I can't understand what this means... are there really Russian vote-bots here or something?
You then claim that this is the "same authoritarianism" as that of Putin's Russia, where the press is firmly muzzled, where you can and will go to prison for in any way openly criticizing the United Russia Party or Putin himself and where reporters or political opponents are regularly, frequently murdered even abroad for going against the grain of Putin's narratives too often.
No, these are not cases of different stages, they're cases of entirely different worlds. Trump's authoritarian noises were mostly just noises and sloppy backlash. Putin's authoritarianism is the real thing.
If we are being completely honest, we won't pretend the last three (whether you mean Obama, Trump, Biden or Bush, Obama, Trump) were special in that regard.
I'm a liberal and would like to point out that fellow liberals say the same about conservatives. We're wasting energy and making enemies fighting a narrative warfare, and it's frankly very stupid.
Jail the their protestors, but not our own. Deplatform their voices and curtail their free speech, but not our own. It's the exact same behavior in both sides, yet both parties rush in to say how they're different and morally correct.
We need to mend ties, not strain them further. We're becoming too polarized, and that's exactly what authoritarians that eye the end of Democracy and its influence want. We're focused on fighting our petty squabbles instead of positioning ourselves in the global sphere.
If you think any of our manufactured crises are even in the same order of magnitude as what Ukraine is facing right now, then they're already winning.
My worry isn't in owning or being owned by the other party. It's that Democracy is shown to be less effective, that free speech is put in a box, and that we end the century in shackles. No future under those pretenses is worth looking forward to.
If there's one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on, it's that tech isn't censoring the things they want censored.
But this is not a left/right political issue. That is incidental. The social exploit of this foreign operational is orthogonal to political ideology and both side stand to suffer substantially. Trump's lack of conservative ideology bona fides are well documented.
Describing media outlets he didn't like as "a war against .. media" is sensationalist. Saying this is "the same authoritarianism in different stages" is the same as saying getting angry is the same as genocide - "same anger in different stages" which is what ahs given rise to the draconian "literally Hitler" attitude to any dissent; This in itself is totalitarian.
"So we're supposed to protect you against Russia and you pay billions of dollars to Russia and I think that's very inappropriate"
Trump 2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trum...
From the center of strategic and international studies. It describes how the same ideology (white male christian) worldview is connected to Putin and Trump, and how the West is viewed as decadent through the moral lens of the fundamentalist churches in both the US and the Russian orthodox church.
Conservatism in the US is not what conservatism in France is. Conservatism in Mexico is not what conservatism in Brazil is.
Putin's version of conservatism, as mentioned in the article, is only applicable to Russia and countries with similar culture.
Comparing Trump to Putin is like comparing Nixon to Brezhnev.
I notice that Democrats aren't forming white supremacist militias, plotting to kidnap state governors, attacking Congress specifically to overturn the results of a national election, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A
The YT comment section actually has a few gems too.
https://youtu.be/e4an0MlF27k?t=11397
Twitter and facebook are being blocked. Youtube and group chats in telegram/signal/etc are the only things left right now.
7670 people have been detained so far.
I hope the citizens realize it can be just as bad in the West if we give governments and corporations more control
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/03/world/europe/russia-ukrai...
This is the silver lining as people on Reddit are reporting a marked decrease in right wing trolling in all their social media
Does anyone know of any organizations studying the ongoing levels of creation and engagement with that type of content?
The wording of the Hong Kong national security law asserts jurisdiction over people who are not residents of Hong Kong and have never even set foot there. This means anyone on Earth, regardless of nationality or location, can technically be deemed to have violated this law and face arrest and prosecution if they are in a Chinese jurisdiction, even for transit.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/07/hong-kong-nat...
UK law people making social media posts could face two years in prison over Fake News https://www.rt.com/uk/539103-trolls-prison-psychological-har...
Another proposition is to send anti-war protesters to war “so that they can see what's actually going on”.
Maybe I'm being cynical, but I think there may be some potential problems with that approach.
This description matches everything that Putin and his lackeys have been doing since 22-02-2022
We'll see how the gamble goes. We may see Russia become North Korea 2.0 with the Putin family as the new Tzars of Russia. Or maybe a second governmental collapse is imminent.
We’re not free anymore. Haven’t been for a long time.
Bring back the FCC fairness doctrine.
Constitutions alone do nothing. If we're not on guard, collectively, we could easily end up without freedom of speech and press in practice.
The actual war isn't going well at all. Their reg troops are driving by wrecked russian equipment destroying their morale.
So they can't deal with reality, send everyone who dissents to prison.
It even had an additional electronic component which made it accept PAL signal, in addition to its native SECAM.
PS: Some say SECAM was technically superior to PAL, but dunno.
1. It is just a proposal: “The proposed legislation, which is supported by Vyacheslav Volodin, the parliamentary speaker, a close ally of President Putin, could be discussed by parliament as early as this week, state television reported.”
2. Another wild proposal, to forcibly conscript protestors, was shot down by Kremlin:
https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/1499402119836622858
It’s disappointing to see not one comment here suggesting that someone read beyond the headline. Et tu, Hacker News?
https://nitter.snopyta.org/MarkAmesExiled/status/14991264245...
No one is innocent here. On Spanish media they dared to use videogame images (Arma 3) as real footage, ditto with a Chinese civil explosion (causality/accident) as a Russia bombing strike.
I'm going to go with jailing citizens for 15 years as much worse than mildly critical journalists in Russia.
Ignoring your combo whataboutism and gish gallop. Don't think Russia has much jurisdiction over some Spanish news channel.
Look what happened in Ukraine. Among neonazis, they supported this:
Ukraine's 2017 education law will make Ukrainian the required language of study in state schools from the fifth grade on, although it allows instruction in other languages as a separate subject,[65][66][67] to be phased in in 2023.[68] Since 2017, the Hungary–Ukraine relations rapidly deteriorated over the issue of the Hungarian minority in Ukraine.[69] According to the New Europe:
The latest row between Kiev and Budapest comes on the heels of a bitter dispute over a decision by Ukraine's parliament – the Verkhovna Rada – to pass a legislative package on education that bars primary education to all students in any language but Ukrainian. The move has been widely condemned by the international community as needlessly provocative as it forces the historically bilingual population of 45 million people who use Russian and Ukrainian interchangeably as mother tongues to become monolingual. Furthermore, the large minorities of Hungarians, Jews, Poles, Tatars, Gypsies, Romanians, Caucasians, and Gagauz generally speak and receive some formal or informal education in their own national languages, all of which will be adversely affected by the new draconian language statute.
Also:
Lviv Oblast Unian reported that "A ban on the use of cultural products, namely movies, books, songs, etc., in the Russian language in the public has been introduced" in the Lviv Oblast in September 2018.[71] Critics[who?] called the law ill-defined, illegal, and unconstitutional, and a successful January 2019 court challenge by the Chuhuiv Human Rights Group was dismissed on technical grounds in May, and could lead to a complaint before the European Court of Human Rights.[72]
They tried to ban the public usage of Russian in Ukraine.
That's a little step towards fascism.
