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0 pointstragictrash4y ago0 comments

You are too naive to think the people can't see what's going on.

Putin brought this on his people for some idealogic crusade. Not everyone will understand but some will.

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Sure, some will. But we've seen how well propaganda works here in the US over the last 6 years, I feel less and less and certain that we'll be able to agree on a common reality here at home.

The number of people that still argue about how the last election was stolen just blows my mind.

dkn7754y ago

Look at how uniform the Ukrainian coverage is if you think we can’t agree on a common reality. In principle I am pro Ukrainian I guess, although the gas prices are pissing me off, it’s too obvious to see the uniform lack of anything but one side story being told everywhere online and in media

thr0wawayf004y ago

Can you elaborate on this? I've seen a lot of reporting across various outlets on how Ukraine is impacting the markets. What is the side of the Ukraine conflict that you're not seeing being reported right now that you wish would be?

Edit: some examples

Fox News: https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-ukraine-russi...

CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-5-dollars-gallon-rus...

CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/03/how-the-ukraine-russia-confl...

USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/03/03/gas-prices-u...

This isn't exhaustive but I tried to cover the main political spectrum here.

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richiebful14y ago

I don't see how letting Russia run roughshod over Ukraine with no Western response would fix the gas price issue. Oil markets price in wars as higher oil prices, especially when big oil producers get into major wars.

boplicity4y ago

The vast majority of Republicans approve of Trump. In other words, they approve of perpetual, blatant dishonesty, or at least don't think it is important enough to change their opinion. Very disheartening.

BuyMyBitcoins4y ago

>”In other words, they approve of perpetual, blatant dishonesty, or at least don't think it is important enough to change their opinion.”

Or it’s the case that they see the other side as being perpetually and blatantly dishonest.

Edit: Which is more likely, one political faction is objectively correct and the other is objectively wrong, or that partisan people view the world in such a way that their own side isn’t lying and the other is?

If you wonder how such people can approve of lies and blatant dishonesty it’s because they fundamentally don’t see such things as lies to begin with. They see it as the truth.

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thr0wawayf004y ago

Sure, some will. But we've seen how well propaganda works here in the US over the last 6 years, I feel less and less and certain that we'll be able to agree on a common reality here at home.

The number of people that still argue about how the last election was stolen just blows my mind.

dkn7754y ago

thr0wawayf004y ago

Edit: some examples

Fox News: https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-ukraine-russi...

CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-5-dollars-gallon-rus...

CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/03/how-the-ukraine-russia-confl...

USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/03/03/gas-prices-u...

This isn't exhaustive but I tried to cover the main political spectrum here.

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richiebful14y ago

boplicity4y ago

BuyMyBitcoins4y ago

>”In other words, they approve of perpetual, blatant dishonesty, or at least don't think it is important enough to change their opinion.”

Or it’s the case that they see the other side as being perpetually and blatantly dishonest.

If you wonder how such people can approve of lies and blatant dishonesty it’s because they fundamentally don’t see such things as lies to begin with. They see it as the truth.

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