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39 pointstimetoogo3y ago10 comments

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> Warning: Please do not put this library anywhere near production. It is full of unsafe, unethical, cursed code that occasionally works for inexplicable reasons.

I wish I knew Rust so I could fully appreciate this unethical code.

marcosdumay3y ago

I didn't look at the code, but I believe it's cursed because of what it does, not because it's unidiomatic Rust.

Terminal handling is a cursed realm. This project is basically all terminal handling, done in a place where no terminal is allowed to exist, and interacting with a badly documented environment that really does not wish it to exist. There are probably some unsafe blocks, but I don't believe the code itself is the extraordinary part.

layer83y ago

> I realised half-way through this project that the "right" way to solve this problem would be by building a client-server shell (not SSH, which is not a shell). A shell where all the interactive elements run on the client and the remote server accepts commands over a socket. However I could not find such a shell. I'll leave this as an exercise to the reader.

It would be interesting to split Bash into a front end and back end, with the ability to plug different protocols in between.

DHowett3y ago

This is PowerShell’s remoting model! It supports different transports (SSH, WSMan), keeps interactive elements on the client side, and effects actions on the server side.

marcosdumay3y ago

Userspace terminals look like a very good solution to a large set of problems that really should not exist, but do nonetheless.

blueflow3y ago

Whats wrong with the pty-forwarding approach used by SSH?

layer83y ago

Apparently the fact that it doesn’t work on AWS, per the TFA.

zokier3y ago

jupyter?

throwoutway3y ago

I learned a lot from this post and the solution seems pretty clever. I wonder when it will be “ready for production” from the author’s point of view?

trav42253y ago

FYI, somewhat related:

https://mosh.org/

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onionisafruit3y ago

> Warning: Please do not put this library anywhere near production. It is full of unsafe, unethical, cursed code that occasionally works for inexplicable reasons.

I wish I knew Rust so I could fully appreciate this unethical code.

marcosdumay3y ago

I didn't look at the code, but I believe it's cursed because of what it does, not because it's unidiomatic Rust.

layer83y ago

It would be interesting to split Bash into a front end and back end, with the ability to plug different protocols in between.

DHowett3y ago

This is PowerShell’s remoting model! It supports different transports (SSH, WSMan), keeps interactive elements on the client side, and effects actions on the server side.

marcosdumay3y ago

Userspace terminals look like a very good solution to a large set of problems that really should not exist, but do nonetheless.

blueflow3y ago

Whats wrong with the pty-forwarding approach used by SSH?

layer83y ago

Apparently the fact that it doesn’t work on AWS, per the TFA.

zokier3y ago

jupyter?

throwoutway3y ago

I learned a lot from this post and the solution seems pretty clever. I wonder when it will be “ready for production” from the author’s point of view?

trav42253y ago

FYI, somewhat related:

https://mosh.org/

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse