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0 pointsNextgrid3y ago0 comments

Just 1% of Google's market might be enough to sustain a non-bloated, VC-free company and make a good product.

The Bloomberg Terminal is extremely expensive and yet companies pay for it because it makes their traders' jobs so much more efficient. I don't see why companies wouldn't do the same for a search engine that filters out all the bullshit so their employees don't have to waste their time wading through it.

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freediver3y ago

You are right. And the actual number is lot smaller. We just need 0.001% of Google users to be sustainable with the current team size. (or about 50,000 users out of 4.3B Google users). And if you find 50k users, you will find 100k. First 5k is tricky!

(Kagi founder here)

warent3y ago

I've been using Kagi for a month or two now. Love it and very excited about your work. Unlike alternatives such as DuckDuckGo, it has easily and painlessly replaced Google Search for me. Can't wait to see more from yall

DocTomoe3y ago

Hi!

I'm a Kagi private beta tester and love it. Will become a paying customer.

One question: I do remember a page that told me how much I searched and what that would mean once Kagi becomes a paid service. I can't find that info anymore. In light of the mail us Kagi users got today, does that mean that it's going to be a flat rate for starters?

freediver3y ago

Yes that is what we intend to try ($10/mo flat fee for unlimited). Most users told us they are more comfortable with this model vs pay-per-use which is why we removed the "Consumption" page as is not relevant in this model.

We do not yet know if the flat fee will be viable for the company and we hope to learn that very soon.

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smt883y ago

> Just 1% of Google's market

Google has 4.3B users, so 1% of that is 43M. With a $5 subscription, Kagi would have $215M in monthly revenue, enough to pay for 14,000 developer salaries.

A more reasonable target might be 500k users at, let's say, $10/mo.

deltree73y ago

If I had a nickel 1% of the time some naive dude said, "we only need to capture 1% of the market to become rich", I'd be very rich.

FredPret3y ago

1% of people who use Google is a hell of a lot. Also, Bloomberg doesn’t just search, it also provides data

NextgridOP3y ago

Categorized search results are also data. Bloomberg is no different to Google in this regard, it doesn't generate the data, it just fetches and aggregates market data from various sources which anyone could technically do with enough effort and yet people pay for it.

FredPret3y ago

They add their own interpretations and calculations of footnotes to financial statements. It’s a step beyond categorizing and aggregating.

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freediver3y ago

(Kagi founder here)

warent3y ago

DocTomoe3y ago

Hi!

I'm a Kagi private beta tester and love it. Will become a paying customer.

freediver3y ago

We do not yet know if the flat fee will be viable for the company and we hope to learn that very soon.

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smt883y ago

> Just 1% of Google's market

Google has 4.3B users, so 1% of that is 43M. With a $5 subscription, Kagi would have $215M in monthly revenue, enough to pay for 14,000 developer salaries.

A more reasonable target might be 500k users at, let's say, $10/mo.

deltree73y ago

If I had a nickel 1% of the time some naive dude said, "we only need to capture 1% of the market to become rich", I'd be very rich.

FredPret3y ago

1% of people who use Google is a hell of a lot. Also, Bloomberg doesn’t just search, it also provides data

NextgridOP3y ago

FredPret3y ago

They add their own interpretations and calculations of footnotes to financial statements. It’s a step beyond categorizing and aggregating.

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