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0 pointsgwbas1c3y ago0 comments

Spend a few minutes talking with someone who designs hardware. Often when they release something, there are TONs of incremental improvements that they just didn't have time to get to when a new product is released.

I remember having a conversation with someone who worked on hard drives in the 80s. He got so ^%$^$# excited telling me about all the improvements he worked on between generations; they were mostly things like tighter calibrations, and refinements.

Point being: Don't knock releases like this.

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FullyFunctional3y ago

Indeed, that "18%" improvement is almost certainly made up of very many 1% improvements (or more likely, many improvements that each only makes difference in some scenarios).

reaperducer3y ago

that "18%" improvement is almost certainly made up of very many 1% improvements

My guess is 18 of them.

_ea1k3y ago

I'd guess 17, but I guess it depends on whether they compound. :)

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smoldesu3y ago

This comment sounds like the exact same hopium I heard about Intel in 2016. I get what you're saying, and there are definitely smaller changes packed in here, but my point is that Apple's performance crown is looking mighty easy to usurp right about now. Hell, they even showed a graph with the i7 1280p beating the M2's single-core performance by ~20% at the WWDC today; they know they're on notice.

astrange3y ago

M2 isn’t intended to have high performance. It’s intended to have a high perf-power ratio, as they said.

Often it gets the performance too, but that’s kind of like a lucky break.

fomine33y ago

Still M1 Pro/Max/Ultra single core performance is basically same as M1. It's not good sign for M2 Pro/whatever's single core performance. It's fine for M2.

seabriez3y ago

And why do I care about perf-power ratio if my laptop is plugged in? WHY? I can understand if it switched to high perf-power ration when Im not plugged, but why would I need that when Im plugged in? Seems like a made up, just because metric.

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gwbas1cOP3y ago

There's more to comparing computers than just CPU benchmarks. Benchmarks can be manipulated. Raw CPU only matters when your workload involves lots of CPU work. (And, if it does, maybe a desktop is a better choice.)

But, more importantly, it's like comparing two cars based on horsepower when in practice both will get you to the same place, on the same road, at the same time.

AgentOrange12343y ago

That 20% better perf was at 4x the power though?

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