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0 pointstkiolp43y ago0 comments

It’s not about the learning part, it’s about the copyright and money part. If you learn how to play song X by The Rolling Stones, you cannot just make money playing song X in a concert. Sure thing you can play song X in your father’s birthday.

Here GitHub (Microsoft) is charging for a product that in certain circumstances violates copyright.

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albertzeyer3y ago

But Copilot (or a human) is not copying some existing code. It (Copilot or human) just used existing code to learn. So it is only about the learning part, nothing else.

Yes, if Copilot (or a human) would copy existing code, that would be a copyright violation. But none of the arguments here are about that. It's just about the learning.

BrandonJung3y ago

it is possible that on a long snippet that you could be copying code from non-permissive code. In addition GitHub themselves have said that this is not resolved and will likely need to be adjudicated in the courts. The only way to avoid this is to train on only fully permissive code. We know here at Tabnine having done this for 5+ years.

albertzeyer3y ago

And again, the same applies for a human as well. It's just the same.

I'm pretty sure I have done that by accident already in the past without noticing. This is not so unusual when you write some code with very common patterns.

And then this even can apply for code which you have not seen before. E.g. write some bubble sort function. Very likely you will find exactly the same code online.

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0 pointstkiolp43y ago0 comments

Here GitHub (Microsoft) is charging for a product that in certain circumstances violates copyright.

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albertzeyer3y ago

But Copilot (or a human) is not copying some existing code. It (Copilot or human) just used existing code to learn. So it is only about the learning part, nothing else.

Yes, if Copilot (or a human) would copy existing code, that would be a copyright violation. But none of the arguments here are about that. It's just about the learning.

BrandonJung3y ago

albertzeyer3y ago

And again, the same applies for a human as well. It's just the same.

I'm pretty sure I have done that by accident already in the past without noticing. This is not so unusual when you write some code with very common patterns.

And then this even can apply for code which you have not seen before. E.g. write some bubble sort function. Very likely you will find exactly the same code online.

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