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0 pointsjjoonathan3y ago0 comments

So it was conservative to worry about the rise of Trump and the Alt Right?

It's conservative to wish Roe had remained on the books?

> Words have meaning, even in the mouths of sophists.

Indeed.

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> So it was conservative to worry about the rise of Trump and the Alt Right?

No, because as we saw in the 1930 and 40s this strain of virulent fascism is not new, but sadly quite traditional - this was the conservatism bubbling through in reaction to modern liberalism.

> It's conservative to wish Roe had remained on the books?

If Roe had been an office worker they wouldn't have even qualified for early retirement, that's how briefly those rights existed - then reactionary conservatism struck to return us to the good old days.

If to make a "point" about history you have to limit your discussion to things that changed only in the last 30-50 years, you might have an alternate agenda.

jjoonathanOP3y ago

> this strain of virulent fascism is not new

To the world? No. To recent American politics? Yes, very much so.

There is no problem with taking the long perspective in your definitions, so long as you are consistent about it, but:

> If you're worried about society changing, there is no definition of the word "progressive"

eropple3y ago

> To recent American politics? Yes, very much so.

It really isn't. George Wallace ran in 1968. David Duke ran in 1988.

American home-grown fascism is a historical fact.

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