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0 pointsanotheruser0923y ago0 comments

Where's the contradiction?

If you assume that people answered honestly, it's very possible that remaining proportion of people who viewed Asian Americans negatively were more likely to express anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year, instead of keeping quiet about their views.

Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are self-reported. It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

Most importantly, anti-Asian hate crimes have "increased by 339 percent" from 2020 to 2021 [2]. Even if you doubt the data, comparatively, crime reports are more reliable and objective than self-reports when you ask a population about their views of people of a particular ethnicity.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-desirability_bias

[2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-c...

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bequanna3y ago

> It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

This statement crosses the line into absurdity.

The poll (that they designed!) didn’t give the “correct” results so time to do some hand waving and move the goalposts.

I’ll never understand this obsession with imagined grievances and jumping through hoops to paint one’s self as a victim. What is the point? Attention? Pity?

anotheruser092OP3y ago

There is no absurdity, as "recall bias" is a recorded effect where people inaccurately remember past experiences to fit their current worldview (source: https://catalogofbias.org/biases/recall-bias/). You also ignored the points on social-desirability bias and crime reports and just asserted there is no increase in racism, and racism is a result of "imagined grievances" and victim culture.

You're asserting that the crime reports are wrong, and we can conclude that racial incidents did not increase because people in a survey said they weren't racist.

Many Asian Americans aren't asking for your "attention" or "pity." If there is more awareness among the Asian American community of racist incidents (e.g. many Asians getting randomly punched or pushed onto the subway tracks), one can have more aware of their surroundings when going outside to avoid random violence.

bequanna3y ago

1. Recall bias is a fancy concept to whip out, but now sure I follow how you think it applies here or helps your point: "I am kinda racist now but I was even MORE racist against Asians in the past" Huh?

2. You can't just ignore a poll because the results don't match your message and then just say: "Oh, well, we can't even trust the results of this poll guys. All the racists will just say they aren't racists... cuz, cmon, we like KNOW there are SOOO many racists!"

3. Hate crime reporting has increased because HOW these incidents are now reported has changed in the past ~18 months at the Federal and local levels. Are there fewer or more of these incidents? Is there some trend? I don't think less than 2 years of data can tell us much of anything.

I find it interesting that when this argument fails to find any actual evidence it reverts to vigorous hand waving and asking us to believe there is some growing contingent of illusive racist boogeymen.

Enough with the fear mongering.

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naniwaduni3y ago

> Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are self-reported. It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

Not just that, people are also just biased to believe their previous opinions are consistent with their current opinions.

bequanna3y ago

Ah, of course!

I always make sure my responses to anonymous surveys are as politically correct as possible. Ya know, just in case ;)

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0 pointsanotheruser0923y ago0 comments

Where's the contradiction?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-desirability_bias

[2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-c...

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bequanna3y ago

> It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

This statement crosses the line into absurdity.

The poll (that they designed!) didn’t give the “correct” results so time to do some hand waving and move the goalposts.

I’ll never understand this obsession with imagined grievances and jumping through hoops to paint one’s self as a victim. What is the point? Attention? Pity?

anotheruser092OP3y ago

You're asserting that the crime reports are wrong, and we can conclude that racial incidents did not increase because people in a survey said they weren't racist.

bequanna3y ago

Enough with the fear mongering.

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naniwaduni3y ago

Not just that, people are also just biased to believe their previous opinions are consistent with their current opinions.

bequanna3y ago

Ah, of course!

I always make sure my responses to anonymous surveys are as politically correct as possible. Ya know, just in case ;)

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