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0 pointsalexb_3y ago0 comments

I despise anything that has touched cryptocurrency, which is why I don't like Brave.

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It's all opt-in. Brave is self sustainable for opt-in privacy respecting ads and crypto is a way for making users opt-in and getting paid. Compare that with Firefox which does not have a real sustainable business model and relying on Google or other sponsors.

schleck83y ago

Everything but their crypto is opt out

- Wallet = has to be removed from the toolbar manually

- Crypto background ads = has to be deactivated

- Crypto Exchange ads = has to be deactivated

- Decentralized domain resolving = has to be deactivated

- BAT = Not enabled by default but has to be removed from the toolbar manually

BrendanEich3y ago

Having to turn off "opt-in" UX widgets is not "out-out". "Opt-out" would mean you had to turn off the feature that was on by default, not remove the button or other affordance to turn it on when it is off by default.

I get your complaint, you want nothing visible to do with our opt-in, off by default crypto stuff. But calling that stuff "out-out" is misusing the phrase. It's off by default.

The New Tab Page sponsored images are non-tracking and not crypto related unless you opt into rewards, so I wouldn't lump them in here. Turn off in slider-widget control at bottom of NTP.

yjftsjthsd-h3y ago

I already have to go through and rip out all the ads that Firefox has and the pocket integration on the toolbar, so this doesn't look all that different to me.

dreen3y ago

I've been using Brave for years and still have no idea what their crypto angle is, because I didn't want or have to find out.

schleck83y ago

Have you not updated? Brave's crypto nonsense is super aggressive nowadays with a wallet builtin, decentralized domain resolving, ads for crypto exchanges on the start page, paid crypto background images and their own currency BAT.

The browser is getting more bloated by the year, they've added some Brave News service now and integrated their paid VPN with their browser instead of making it a separate product like Mozilla VPN

And obviously they started using affiliate marketing, parasite behaviour.

dreen3y ago

I'm using 1.42 on mobile, I understand the browser has crypto features but they are not visible to me in a noticeable way

tssva3y ago

I have no idea what they have been up to lately but when originally rolled out Brave's business model seemed very much like a protection racket. I haven't touched it since and never will.

BrendanEich3y ago

We don't take fees to unblock ads, so you must mean the "acceptable ads" extensions and not Brave.

tssva3y ago

No, I meant you. As I understood it your software blocked ads at websites, presented your own ads and then you told website owners they could recoup some of their lost revenue by participating in your whole BAT scheme. That sounds pretty close to a protection racket.

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therealmarv3y ago

schleck83y ago

Everything but their crypto is opt out

- Wallet = has to be removed from the toolbar manually

- Crypto background ads = has to be deactivated

- Crypto Exchange ads = has to be deactivated

- Decentralized domain resolving = has to be deactivated

- BAT = Not enabled by default but has to be removed from the toolbar manually

BrendanEich3y ago

I get your complaint, you want nothing visible to do with our opt-in, off by default crypto stuff. But calling that stuff "out-out" is misusing the phrase. It's off by default.

The New Tab Page sponsored images are non-tracking and not crypto related unless you opt into rewards, so I wouldn't lump them in here. Turn off in slider-widget control at bottom of NTP.

yjftsjthsd-h3y ago

I already have to go through and rip out all the ads that Firefox has and the pocket integration on the toolbar, so this doesn't look all that different to me.

dreen3y ago

I've been using Brave for years and still have no idea what their crypto angle is, because I didn't want or have to find out.

schleck83y ago

The browser is getting more bloated by the year, they've added some Brave News service now and integrated their paid VPN with their browser instead of making it a separate product like Mozilla VPN

And obviously they started using affiliate marketing, parasite behaviour.

dreen3y ago

I'm using 1.42 on mobile, I understand the browser has crypto features but they are not visible to me in a noticeable way

tssva3y ago

I have no idea what they have been up to lately but when originally rolled out Brave's business model seemed very much like a protection racket. I haven't touched it since and never will.

BrendanEich3y ago

We don't take fees to unblock ads, so you must mean the "acceptable ads" extensions and not Brave.

tssva3y ago

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