* Somebody (probably America) sabotaged the Nordstream 2 gas pipeline.
* That's related to the war in Ukraine because? wars are always about resources?
* The EU doesn't have any options to replace the gas that needs to come from Russia.
* That's going to drive all EU citizens back to an agrarian lifestyle.
* And also, the EU is too weak of an institution to defend its citizens.
It reeks of conspiracy theory to me. EU citizens should hate the US for driving them into poverty and should embrace Russia invading their neighbor.One of the first results that comes up for me when I search "Nordstream 2" is the Brooking institute discussing similar conspiracy theories spreading among podcasters in the US, parroting the Kremlin: https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/u-s-podcasters-spread-k...
Blowing up an underwater international gas pipeline requires planning. Doing so in such a way that the public doesn't know about it in advance requires secrecy. The public not knowing the reason for blowing it up also requires ongoing secrecy.
Admittedly, I'm not the smartest person in the world, but this seems like a fairly cut-and-dried conspiracy to me.
* Somebody (probably America) sabotaged the Nordstream 2 gas pipeline.
Ok that's possible * That's related to the war in Ukraine because? wars are always about resources?
Its feesable that its Russia/Ukraine war related * The EU doesn't have any options to replace the gas that needs to come from Russia.
This is just wrong. Its just that options are expensive both fiscally and politically. Though some of the options are better for them in the long run by making them green independent. it just takes too long... * That's going to drive all EU citizens back to an agrarian lifestyle.
Just a silly notion. * And also, the EU is too weak of an institution to defend its citizens.
Also very silly.The narrative will no longer be "Why did we get in bed with the Russians for our energy?" and instead will be "Too bad about the broken pipeline!"
Pipeline B of Nord Stream 2 is unscratched and can deliver 30 billion cubic meter of gas per year.
Gazprom now says that two of three "destroyed" pipelines are now in a stable condition hinting that they can be repaired.
Why would the US only destroy 1/4 of the pipelines?
Talking to them, there is a definite sense of pessimism, bordering on fatalism, about them. Some of this is reflected in salaries - skilled white collar workers get paid well on average in Europe, but their salaries haven’t kept pace with the rest of the world, including (and especially) America. Even as an Indian, most of my peer group makes similar wages as their European counterparts, without even factoring in purchasing power.
What I mean to say is that it might all seem to be crumbling down now, but the decline seems to have started a while back.
You're dressing up what at best is anecdotal evidence, and at worst heresay, with a long post that sounds mature and well thought out but it's not.
In reality, countries collapse in all kinds of different ways quite regularly.
We are not currently seeing a shortage of much, certainly things have gone up in price, but we do not have the shortages we had with Covid, there are no restrictions on what I can do and the war hasn't impacted me in any way, except that it is the thing on the news.
It is possible we will lack power for the winter, its also possible putin nukes somebody. Not likely.
It looks like a catastrophe in the making, and public opinion about say fracking or support for war sanctions might change when say grandmas start making the news for freezing to death due to prices/blackouts etc.
https://infosannio.com/2022/10/01/lamico-tedesco/
(Massimo Gramellini - corriere.it) - For anyone who feels like a citizen of Europe, it was sad to see proof that our German-speaking compatriot Olaf Scholz essentially thinks of his own comforts. Not content with having backed the Dutch comrade in turning a deaf ear (it must be said) to the request to put a ceiling on the price of gas, the chancellor of Berlin hijacked two hundred billion of the German budget on the German bills, with many greetings to whom - for example the Italian budget - those two hundred billion do not have them.
This is motivated article which speaks half-truths with the goal of casting events in a particular light to advantage Russian interests. I would dig further into the author's motivations.
That's factually incorrect. Germany said before the invasion, and followed through with it, that it would not allow NordStream2 to come into operation if Russia invaded.
Listen: Putin did start the war and caused most problems that are causing Europe's energy prices to skyrocket... but how can we just forget the order of event so quickly and start spreading fake claims when clearly it's not even necessary to make a point? Just say how it would be immoral to buy gas from Russia after the war was started regardless of consequences to the prices in Europe.
Russia decided to cut deliveries (long before February, even) until eventually cutting them completely. Germany‘s stated policy is to buy gas if Russia wants to deliver it.
A high IQ is neither a necessary nor sufficient defense against well-crafted Western propaganda efforts.
Hackernews falls for CIA talking points just as effectively as a Redneck falls for QAnon.
There should be no surprise here.
"It seems clear that for us there are no other ways out than a decisive shift toward renewables, already today much cheaper than fossil fuels and capable of completely replacing them. Politicians have not yet understood this, but moving to renewables would protect us from new crises of energy availability and from blackmail by producers. But it's not something that can be done overnight."
How many months/years of idling will it be before they go bankrupt or the owners decide to pull the plug?
This was clearly not in the US’s geopolitical interest.
The amount of war time propaganda on the Ukraine conflict has hit overdrive status and I would expect this article to “disappear” quickly.
There is little room to discuss the larger geopolitic situation. Instead a simplified narrative of
“Putin is an evil dictator invading a peaceful democracy and must be stopped at all costs”
And
“Ukraine is winning and will reclaim all territory including Crimea!!”
Is all that is allowed.
We in East Europe we knew all along that we need to get in NATO ASAP because Russia is actual evil and would not esitate to exterminate us just to take our land and resources, so fuck your Trumpan-Illuminati theories, the reality is in your face and you refuse to see it, Putin and Russia are evil, they will not hesitate to doe evil , US is not perfect but is not some super genius state where they played Putin as a stupid puppet all along.
Maybe we easter European are wrong, but for now we will curse Putin and Russia for all the shit is happening
Reminds me of the bit activity around election cycles.