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0 pointsseer-zig3y ago0 comments

Java is one of the very few languages out there that is manageable and debuggable at the large scales you're talking about. The tooling around it is second to none, and because it is statically typed with a decent type system, you can refactor quite safely in general.

And let's be frank, XML, other than for Maven (where it can make sense), is not really a thing in modern Java.

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s-zeng3y ago

> decent type system

I'd call it a bare minimum type system, not "decent"

seer-zigOP3y ago

golang and C would take that spot :-)

Records, pattern matching, string templates, and more to come for Java for which the other two have nothing equivalent.

Kamq3y ago

> The tooling around it is second to none

I feel like you've never looked at C's tooling.

Admittedly, some of it is stuff you just don't need in Java, but things like Valgrind are crazy impressive.

seer-zigOP3y ago

The issues that C faces in terms of memory correctness do not occur in Java. You can use tools like `perf` on a Java program, and I don't see why you couldn't use valgrind for natively compiled Java programs.

For debugging and observability, tell me if C (or any other platform) has anything resembling JFR for the JVM.

lukashrb3y ago

> and because it is statically typed with a decent type system, you can refactor quite safely in general.

I wish that would be true. Would make my current job a lot easier.

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0 pointsseer-zig3y ago0 comments

And let's be frank, XML, other than for Maven (where it can make sense), is not really a thing in modern Java.

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s-zeng3y ago

> decent type system

I'd call it a bare minimum type system, not "decent"

seer-zigOP3y ago

golang and C would take that spot :-)

Records, pattern matching, string templates, and more to come for Java for which the other two have nothing equivalent.

Kamq3y ago

> The tooling around it is second to none

I feel like you've never looked at C's tooling.

Admittedly, some of it is stuff you just don't need in Java, but things like Valgrind are crazy impressive.

seer-zigOP3y ago

For debugging and observability, tell me if C (or any other platform) has anything resembling JFR for the JVM.

lukashrb3y ago

> and because it is statically typed with a decent type system, you can refactor quite safely in general.

I wish that would be true. Would make my current job a lot easier.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse