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0 pointsnemo44x3y ago0 comments

Yeah people should be able to have bon fires on their front lawn to cook the animal carcass they have hanging in the front yard tree because they shouldn't be enslaved by fridges and stoves.

They should be able to bath themselves in the front yard by pouring water from they collected from a nearby creek over themselves because showers are slavery.

It's ok for people to tan animal hides in their front yard because the clothing store requires transportation which is just slavery.

I'm going to have torches inside and out because light bulbs enslave me.

I'm thinking about joining an Amish community because the machines I own have ended up owning me.

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torstenvl3y ago

Actually, yes, in the absence of hurting other people, people should generally be free to do what they like on their own property, even if other people don't like it.

And yes, forcing other people to do or not-do what you want, by force of law and without regard for their own agency, is incompatible with freedom.

nemo44xOP3y ago

OK I'm going to buy property next door to you and store hundreds of drums of crude oil on it. That's OK?

Hmmm, I think there's a thing called "reason" here, as in being "reasonable".

no, we live in communities of people. We are not atomic units but rather a part of a community and the community decides what's OK and what isn't. If you can't abide by it then you need to find another community that agrees with you or move to a rural area where you can isolate yourself. In fact, I hope there is a community with no zoning or restrictions on what you can do on your property so people like you feel like you have a place. Maybe it becomes so successful everyone wants to transition to that.

Or maybe we've come up with these rules for good reason. Ever consider that?

torstenvl3y ago

I actually agree. When people can't abide anti-freedom attitudes, they should part ways. Luckily, that's exactly what my country has done.

Since this is a story about the U.S., I ask that you try to view it through the appropriate cultural lens, rather than imposing your own.

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0 pointsnemo44x3y ago0 comments

Yeah people should be able to have bon fires on their front lawn to cook the animal carcass they have hanging in the front yard tree because they shouldn't be enslaved by fridges and stoves.

They should be able to bath themselves in the front yard by pouring water from they collected from a nearby creek over themselves because showers are slavery.

It's ok for people to tan animal hides in their front yard because the clothing store requires transportation which is just slavery.

I'm going to have torches inside and out because light bulbs enslave me.

I'm thinking about joining an Amish community because the machines I own have ended up owning me.

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torstenvl3y ago

Actually, yes, in the absence of hurting other people, people should generally be free to do what they like on their own property, even if other people don't like it.

And yes, forcing other people to do or not-do what you want, by force of law and without regard for their own agency, is incompatible with freedom.

nemo44xOP3y ago

OK I'm going to buy property next door to you and store hundreds of drums of crude oil on it. That's OK?

Hmmm, I think there's a thing called "reason" here, as in being "reasonable".

Or maybe we've come up with these rules for good reason. Ever consider that?

torstenvl3y ago

I actually agree. When people can't abide anti-freedom attitudes, they should part ways. Luckily, that's exactly what my country has done.

Since this is a story about the U.S., I ask that you try to view it through the appropriate cultural lens, rather than imposing your own.

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