I just had this experience with my paydevs account: * On 2022-10-29T12:43:45 I postet https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33383563 on my paydevs account, which does not show up in the stream and HN search * On hour later, on 2022-10-29T13:43:02 the user https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=pabs3 published the same link with a different title: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33383972
Is this normal on HackerNews?
We banned your paydevs account though - it's against HN's rules to use the site primarily for promotion (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), and that account was not only doing that, it crossed the line into what the community here considers spamming. That's why your submission of the link was killed.
However, just as I mentioned in a deleted thread started by Tomte, that "somebody else got lucky" would be a very very big coincidence - the project is roughly 3 months old and wasn't mentioned recently. That someone decides - exactly at the same time - to share the link is very strange.
As for the other submission, I didn't find the slightest indication that the submitter did anything wrong. If you posted your URL to another site, perhaps they saw it there and thought HN might find it interesting? Alternatively, perhaps they had 'showdead' turned on in their profile, saw https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33383563 and thought it might do better with a different title? There are lots of ways that post could have been made legitimately.
It's also not clear what the alternative hypothesis is - what are they supposed to have done that wasn't legitimate? I looked at a bunch of their submissions and none of the links had been previously submitted to HN, so this isn't happening routinely.
If it is possible to show "dead" posts by anyone who then get "inspired" and re-post them, this could be an explanation. However, the policy of not notifying accounts that they are "banned" but their posts are still posted is a bit odd. What is the reasoning and "long game"? Can an account be un-banned or are the posts only stored and forgotten?
> It's also not clear what the alternative hypothesis is - what are they supposed to have done that wasn't legitimate? I looked at a bunch of their submissions and none of the links had been previously submitted to HN, so this isn't happening routinely.
Well, I assumed that only internal HN staff could hide and view posts, and that looked a bit suspicious - especially if the "hi-jacking" accounts are posting 24/7.
Just because I'm interested in a specific topic does not mean that I'm "not asking questions out of intellectual curiosity". I wanted to start discussions about those topics - and if that's not allowed wouldn't that mean that nobody from Google may ask about search algorithms or nobody from YCombinator mask ask about Startups?
It does seem odd.