I've asked for my pupillary distance in the past and got a talking to about how evil online ordering is and how it'll ruin my eyes before they would give it to me.

All BS, and when I asked if they'd fill a prescription for lenses for my VR unit instead of ordering them online, they stared at me like I had grown a third arm.

Zenni will send you a cool little cardboard ruler that sits on the bridge of your nose to measure PD. It suffices (I am wearing my Zenni frames as I write this).

I hate hate hate EssilorLuxxotica.

My ophthalmologist claimed he didn’t have the equipment to add PD to his prescription. Bald-faced liar.

BTW, the app is called PD Measure.

I've had great experience with Zenni for single-vision prescriptions, but when I graduated to progressive (i.e. bifocal) lenses, the Zenni lenses were terrible and I couldn't use them. Not sure if it was the frame fit, or poor PD measuring on my part, but I tried twice and both times I couldn't use them.

The glasses I got from my optometrist are much better, at 3X - 4X the price of Zenni.

It's easy to do your own PD measurement with a mirror and ruler

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33525673#33529513

my family won't even ask for the pd... so I can't buy them cheaper lenses... and I'm not going to have a giant fight with my spouse even tho for what I'm paying in vision coverage we could get 4-10x the glasses they get now.

Those fancy brand name frames are literally just different names for Luxxotica.