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0 pointskzrdude3y ago0 comments

Why isn't the timer stuff just an optional [Timer] in a unit file? Then it would be separate (separate section), even if it's in the same file.

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yawaramin3y ago

Because a service may not always be triggered by a timer. Sometimes it could be triggered manually. Sometimes by a volume being mounted or unmounted. Sometimes by a request from a socket. By decoupling them they become reusable components. Actually, much like Unix tools which people love going on about.

phpisthebest3y ago

that would be a convention or configuration debate

I prefer convention for systemd. The justification for have a separate timer file instead it being in the unit file would be making it easier for someone to quickly look at what services are running on timers vs running by targets.

if timers where in the services file you would have to open each one to find out what had a timer, with a separate file you just look at which service as a timer provided your naming is standardized)

funcDropShadow3y ago

In practice, I run `systemctl list-timers` to see all the timers that exist. That could be implemented with timers in a section of the unit file as well. But by being a separate file, you can have package that installs the unit and another that installs the timer. You can use symlinks to enable the timer and delete the symlink to remove the timer.

kzrdudeOP3y ago

In general convention doesn't work so well if you're not really into the system. I.e the casual users.

Convention means that behaviour depends on not just what's present but also what's not present. So it is of course missing some of the explicitness. For the directories, you need to understand which directories to look into and in which order they are taken into account (for systemd this is hard enough that's it's best to be tool assisted).

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