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0 points_djo_3y ago0 comments

Musk is lying.

This is what an aircraft in the PIA programme looks like. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe01

Note the 'PIA' flag and lack of additional information that would normally be pulled from the registry. In fact if you searched the registry for A0FE01 you would not find the actual aircraft but a placeholder.

Musk uses three jets, N628TS, N272BG, and N502SX. None are in the PIA programme, all are easily visible on ADSB Exchange and most importantly have their ICAO hex codes listed publicly on the FAA registry, along with ownership information.

So please, let's stop repeating this false claim.

N628TS:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

N272BG:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a2ae0a

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

N502SX:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a64304

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

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leereeves3y ago

As was pointed out in responses to your independent post about this[1], aircraft enrolled in PIA still have public permanent codes, which they must use when outside the US, as Musk is now (at the World Cup in Qatar).

Linking to the adsbexchange page for that permanent code doesn't prove that no anonymous temporary PIA codes exist.

You should be more careful before accusing someone of lying.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780

_djo_OP3y ago

You're right about international flights and I should have specified that, but you can view the aircraft's recent US-only flights and see that it also used its permanent ICAO code.

leereeves3y ago

There are also gaps in the history ("no data available") of the permanent code, like:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-...

Couldn't they have used the PIA code on those days?

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leereeves3y ago

Linking to the adsbexchange page for that permanent code doesn't prove that no anonymous temporary PIA codes exist.

You should be more careful before accusing someone of lying.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037780

_djo_OP3y ago

You're right about international flights and I should have specified that, but you can view the aircraft's recent US-only flights and see that it also used its permanent ICAO code.

leereeves3y ago

There are also gaps in the history ("no data available") of the permanent code, like:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af&lat=34.765&lon=-...

Couldn't they have used the PIA code on those days?

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