I love Mazda for resisting the touchscreen-everything car interior. Everything in my 2021 CX-5 is physical buttons and knobs. The design and ergonomics are just fantastically nice and usable.
Like you said, the infotainment is also not a touchscreen and is rotary control only. While not as immediately intuitive as a touchscreen, once you get the hang of it it is much safer and more accurate to use while driving. Trying to use a touchscreen while moving is just awful.
And I don't think it is wise to optimize short term intuitiveness over long term safety and usability for a vehicle I will own for several years.