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0 pointsrcpt3y ago0 comments

Well, they're ruined because of zoning (and tax law but that's a whole other story)

In theory zoning is supposed be in residents interest to stop things like fracking from happening next to playgrounds (it doesn't but again that's another story). Cities follow zoning law to the letter when it comes to new apartments.

Airbnb repurposes residential zoned property as commerical hotels. If we're going to take zoning seriously this shouldn't be allowed.

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greggman33y ago

AirBnB sux but zoning has arguably been a net negative on most societies in many ways

https://youtu.be/bnKIVX968PQ

https://youtu.be/CCOdQsZa15o

for me what I noticed lately is that in California it's impossible to have a quiet modern apartment because nearly 100% of modern apartment buildings are only allowed to be built on busy noisy high traffic streets. If you want a quiet street you're forced to buy/rent a house

ptspts3y ago

Is it possible to build proper noise insulation, which makes the house as quiet as the a house in a quiet neignorhood, to a newly built, modern apartment house?

I think it is, but construction companies are trying to savd a few cents, and they don't add proper noise insulation.

canucklady3y ago

Where I live the zoning laws require better noise isolation for new builds on major roads, because this is such an easy way for investors to save money and screw tenants.

opportune3y ago

Not true in SF. Plenty of apartments are on streets that are not main thoroughfares. In fact busy streets are often primarily zoned commercial

greggman33y ago

Name any apartment complex on a quiet street in SF that's not in Mission Bay that's been built in the last 15 years

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tekknik3y ago

Where exactly in CA? I live in an apartment on a quiet street and the worst noise problem I have is the upstairs neighbors have a heavy dog that likes to jump around.

rcptOP3y ago

100% agree.

But if we take zoning seriously when it comes to new apartments then we should take it seriously when it comes to Airbnb.

bosie3y ago

why is california not allowing apartment buildings being built in low traffic streets?

CamelCaseName3y ago

Because then they won't be low traffic streets anymore

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jtc3313y ago

Comparing it to a commercial hotel isn’t really accurate. It’s more like a bed and breakfast. Size of the property matters a lot.

Arainach3y ago

In every city there are multiple hosts who buy/rent out entire apartment complexes and turn them into AirBnBs. That's a hotel, not a bed and breakfast.

tw985213583y ago

Yeah but at that point it’s just plain old tax fraud.

nabakin3y ago

Population density too

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greggman33y ago

AirBnB sux but zoning has arguably been a net negative on most societies in many ways

https://youtu.be/bnKIVX968PQ

https://youtu.be/CCOdQsZa15o

ptspts3y ago

Is it possible to build proper noise insulation, which makes the house as quiet as the a house in a quiet neignorhood, to a newly built, modern apartment house?

I think it is, but construction companies are trying to savd a few cents, and they don't add proper noise insulation.

canucklady3y ago

Where I live the zoning laws require better noise isolation for new builds on major roads, because this is such an easy way for investors to save money and screw tenants.

opportune3y ago

Not true in SF. Plenty of apartments are on streets that are not main thoroughfares. In fact busy streets are often primarily zoned commercial

greggman33y ago

Name any apartment complex on a quiet street in SF that's not in Mission Bay that's been built in the last 15 years

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tekknik3y ago

Where exactly in CA? I live in an apartment on a quiet street and the worst noise problem I have is the upstairs neighbors have a heavy dog that likes to jump around.

rcptOP3y ago

100% agree.

But if we take zoning seriously when it comes to new apartments then we should take it seriously when it comes to Airbnb.

bosie3y ago

why is california not allowing apartment buildings being built in low traffic streets?

CamelCaseName3y ago

Because then they won't be low traffic streets anymore

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jtc3313y ago

Comparing it to a commercial hotel isn’t really accurate. It’s more like a bed and breakfast. Size of the property matters a lot.

Arainach3y ago

In every city there are multiple hosts who buy/rent out entire apartment complexes and turn them into AirBnBs. That's a hotel, not a bed and breakfast.

tw985213583y ago

Yeah but at that point it’s just plain old tax fraud.

nabakin3y ago

Population density too

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse