Ask HN: Does the HN commenting UI work for you?

As a reader: I don't think there's only one POV, but maybe because if a topic interests me, I tend to read the whole thread, or at least the first page. And reading deeply enough inside threads, I almost always see multiple POVs, interesting responses and somewhat polite disagreements. Almost every week there's something someone says which is very interesting, resonates with me, or (more rarely) from which I learn something new and sometimes unexpected.

But you're right, wading through comments takes time. I don't do this if I'm very busy. So some weeks I have just a single comment page open on my browser (both mobile and desktop) and I read through it in between things, 5 minutes here, 5 minutes there, until it's finished. I don't read anything else except the front page's headlines.

As a writer of comments: Writing a good comment takes time. Several times I've written a long detailed comment and then didn't post it because I felt I didn't have time to polish it enough. But not always. And reading through other people's comments also takes time out of this, of course. This personally is what reduces my participation.

I don't think having the threads collapsed would help me much. For me it'd be much of the same, I'd still expand them all anyway and read through them, hoping to see those comments that make it worthwhile.

As for dark mode, I don't care about it much. Personally I almost never use it in applications. In my mobile web browser I use the built-in dark mode when I read something just before sleep, but that's it. I personally prefer "warm light" solutions like flux or in recent years built-in OS solutions.

As for your references to the "Silicon Valley Coding Diaspora", that might have been (and still is?) the core audience, but imo the readers / writers nowadays are much more varied and international than that. Which is very important for me. I think focusing solely on "Silicon Valley" would be a waste for this site.

and at its best.

There's no easy way to scan the comments to get a sense of the breadth of reaction - it's just a case of wading through all of them.

Friction, I think of as a feature, not a bug. Slowing people down raises the threshold for engagement. Requiring effort reduces drive-by's in the comments.

It's not just that HN has changed, you have changed too. Probably more than HN. Yes, you don't have the time. But also less is new...I mean I heard of Python on HN.

But one of the ways HN has changed is the content and comments are more loosely coupled with the context of YC. Funding rounds are unlikely to make the front page anymore.

And that's because startups are mainstream news...perhaps due in no small measure to YC's activities.

Yet, most likely it is mostly you -- after all, it's your cranky old man post.

Good luck.

I'd make revisions possible past 2 hours, but make it quite visible that revisions had been done, and a way to visualize the differences.

This is not really the right approach to comments because they are embedded in a tree, the parent and children should matter for classification. I think though a comment viewer would be possible and I also think metafilter would be a good source of comments, possibly better than the metafilter articles.

(Oddly in the last month I have been thinking about inferred preference scores as more ‘real’ in some sense than revealed preferences. HN articles that have a high comment/score ratio are frequently knockdown-dragout matches and by training a classifier on that ratio I have a ‘clickbait’ score that expects a lot of comments on ‘Is Bitcoin a Shitcoin?’ but very few on anything that has to do with graph databases.)